Ban guns!

[Lifetime]

With whom are you speaking arch?

[arch stanton]

Anyone who wants to listen. I'm not picky.

[Scott34]

I think people generally overestimate the determination of these shooters. I think they normally get whatever guns they can get their hands on.

[Lifetime]

So then it wouldn't help?

[Scott34]

It would. I don't think these shooters would wait around for an assault weapon if they have hand guns.

[arch stanton]

So to be clear, a 20 year old white suburbanite decided to murder his own sleeping mother then execute 20 school children in his own neighborhood and the focus of the issue should be his choice of weapons?

 

Why didn't we think to ban rental trucks after OK City or airplanes after 9/11?

[Lifetime]

It would. I don't think these shooters would wait around for an assault weapon if they have hand guns.

so, for the sake of argument, these shooters can't do as much damage without an "assault" weapon?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

You should read the USSC rulings on the subject as well as most state constitutions on this subject.

Again, people applying a 21st Century take on an 18th Century document. Add to that the fact that the Supreme Court has a majority of Justices who already side with the "gun rights above all else" crowd, and you aren't going to get an objective interpretation anyway.

 

The Second Amendment isn't the only amendment to get a skewed interpretation. The First Amendment, which protects free speech, has been more broadly interpreted to protect all manner of expression, including burning an American flag, which isn't speech at all.

[Lifetime]

Again, people applying a 21st Century take on an 18th Century document. Add to that the fact that the Supreme Court has a majority of Justices who already side with the "gun rights above all else" crowd, and you aren't going to get an objective interpretation anyway.

The Second Amendment isn't the only amendment to get a skewed interpretation. The First Amendment, which protects free speech, has been more broadly interpreted to protect all manner of expression, including burning an American flag, which isn't speech at all.

well again, you should take a closer look at this and the discussions that surrounded it as well as the state constitutions written back in the day.

[Lifetime]

Oh and the Supreme Court majority sides with "gun rights above all else"?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Oh and the Supreme Court majority sides with "gun rights above all else"?

Not quite what I said, but if it makes you feel better, go ahead and interpret it that way.

[Lifetime]

Not quite what I said, but if it makes you feel better, go ahead and interpret it that way.

that is exactly what you said.

[Lifetime]

So are you implying that the 1st Amendment doesn't or shouldn't protect other forms of expression other than speech?

[arch stanton]

Any interpretation of the Constitution should give the widest possible definitions to the terms used with the intent of protecting the rights of citizens. It should be assumed that the intent was to limit legislation, not to encourage it.

 

After-the-fact proacativity is pure politics designed to play on emotions to support short sighted agendas. Carrying weapons on school grounds is already illegal. Murder is already illegal. What's the point of creating another unenforceable law that doesn't even address the root of the problem?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

that is exactly what you said.

Uh, no. I said that they were on the side of that crowd, not that they were part of it or that guns were their primary focus. Thanks for playing.

[Lifetime]

uh, you also said that because of that they could not objectively interpret the Constitution. so you're saying that they side with the crowd but they don't side with the ideals and regardless of that they cant be objective? that seems reasonable enough.

Uh, no. I said that they were on the side of that crowd, not that they were part of it or that guns were their primary focus. Thanks for playing.

 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

I give up...

[Lifetime]

hmm, I was hoping you were going to explain how that works.

 

no response on the 1st Amendment question?

[Chimi]

If we don't have guns, how am I supposed to fend off the upcoming zombie invasion?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

If we don't have guns, how am I supposed to fend off the upcoming zombie invasion?

Don't worry. A pre-election poll said that Obama would do a better job at protecting us from space aliens than Romney. I'm sure that the same data applies to zombies.

[Futch Winkleman]

hmm, I was hoping you were going to explain how that works.

 

no response on the 1st Amendment question?

No response on the shots fired by LAPD at the blue truck?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

No response on the shots fired by LAPD at the blue truck?

Yeah. There were a bunch of them.

[Futch Winkleman]

Lifetime disagrees.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Lifetime disagrees.

Of course. By using the word "bunch", I implied bananas, which means that the women in the truck weren't in real danger. Or maybe it was a veiled racial slur directed at any black officers who were present. Or perhaps I implied Bradys, which means that the whole thing was staged to film a bad sitcom, trivializing the real danger in the situation.

 

People who concern themselves as much with how something is said as with the content are too tedious for me to deal with.

[Lifetime]

No response on the shots fired by LAPD at the blue truck?

actually, I gave a response. it just wasn't the one you jackasses were prodding for.