prop 47

[gotbeer]

I would seriously urge you all to search/read-up on this new ruling.  It seems like a good idea to save money on incarceration, but lessens penalties on some crimes that a lot of us see as "serious." 

I think it was written by tweakers, for tweakers because a lot of it relates to their specific type of crimes (Meth-heads who also do thefts and Burglaries).

 

Basically, it ups the value of loss for a Felony crime to $950.  That means, if your car, gun, or gun out of your locked car are stolen it is only a Misdemeanor unless the suspect is a sex-reg. or has a previous "Super Strike" (such as homicide).  Commercial Burglaries are now Misdemeanors (Ex. When a suspect goes into Target during business hours with the intent to steal something).  If your car is valued under $950, it is a Misdemeanor theft.

 

Possession of Meth, Heroin, Cocaine, and PCP to name a few are now Misdemeanors.  Possession for sale and Residential Burglary remain felonious.

 

I'm all for rehabbing users who aren't career-criminals, and I hope this Prop doesn't sink California.  I voted NO btw.

 

So I should cancel my field trip to Tanks house?  But my trip the Apple store is still on?

[Tank]

by all means, please cancel your trip.

 

right now, there's just too many cooks.

Edited November 9, 2014 by Tank

[LBHalos17]

Any legislation that lessens cops focus on petty crimes and drug offenses and puts more efforts into real police work I'm all for.

Unfortunately, these petty crimes lead to the real crimes.  Auto burglary is pretty serious for the victim, and most thefts/burglaries are fueled by drug habits.

[HaloMagic]

No one steals cars worth less than $950.

[nate]

You say that but I had a 1973 Super Beetle stolen from me about 10 years ago.  It even had multicolored fenders because it had been in an accident before I got it.

 

Dudes that stole it got about two blocks before giving up.  It had busted engine mounts which caused a huge hole in the intake vacuum hose that required the engine to always need to be rev'd or it would stall.  I drove it in traffic by using the hand break to come to a stop so I could keep my foot on the clutch & gas.

[wopphil]

You say that but I had a 1973 Super Beetle stolen from me about 10 years ago. It even had multicolored fenders because it had been in an accident before I got it.

Dudes that stole it got about two blocks before giving up. It had busted engine mounts which caused a huge hole in the intake vacuum hose that required the engine to always need to be rev'd or it would stall. I drove it in traffic by using the hand break to come to a stop so I could keep my foot on the clutch & gas.

Dude, I have a mountain bike you can use if need be. My son's razor scooter might even be an upgrade.

[nate]

I've upgraded since then.

[Lou]

I've upgraded since then.

 

you bought a pair of shoes? 

[nate]

Air Jordans baby!

[Lou]

probably cost you more than $950

[Tank]

wait, i thought you were required to wear clogs in wisconsin. no?

[gotbeer]

This was an unexpected side effect.  There goes all the money we saved into paying for non slave labor fire crews with benefits now.

 

Prop. 47 leaves future of California inmate fire crews uncertain

[Lhalo]

Can't the fire fighting be part of a probation program? Why does jail time have to be mandatory?