Joe Maddon To Cubs

[Hollyw00d]

Yeah, no playoff wins.

 

Really well.

Dumb post.

[Blarg]

Yeah, this strikes me as a bit unprofessional all around.

There are plenty of free agents out there for the Angels to choose from and each would replace someone already on the roster. Management is no different, you jump on the best guy available if you can afford him.

[Blarg]

Good to see Joe get out of that pit. At least with the Cubs it's a pit with a fanbase.

And much better food. Florida is rather dull in that aspect.

[Mark68]

i wonder if he'll be able to break the cubs 175 year streak of missing the world series.

It's only 175?

 

Seems longer.

[Lhalo]

And much better food. Florida is rather dull in that aspect.

Maybe in Tampa it sucks but Miami has great food.

[Jimmag]

He would have a better shot at breaking the curse of Rocky Colavito then the curse of the Billy goat.

[red321]

It's one thing to interview for an open position... it's another to interview for one that's still occupied. 

 

I agree...there had been zero talk of Renteria losing his job. Kind of bush league if Maddon and co. reached out to the Cubs...hell, even if the Cubs reach out first. Almost makes you wonder if there was talk between Maddon's people and the Cubs prior to him opting out of his Rays deal. Maybe more information comes out later, but it certainly smells a little off.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Yeah, this strikes me as a bit unprofessional all around.

 

There was no mention of Renteria even being in trouble, then Maddon opts out and bang! Sucks for him, hope that he finds a job soon.

[Sully151]

If the Angels had fired Scioscia out of the blue and then hired Maddon, would you still be calling foul?

[mtangelsfan]

If the Angels had fired Scioscia out of the blue and then hired Maddon, would you still be calling foul?

 

That is the point though.  One, they haven't even fired Renteria yet.  Two, Maddon clearly opted out for that specific job.  Its shady and it would be shady regardless of whatever team he went to.

[Lhalo]

That is the point though.  One, they haven't even fired Renteria yet.  Two, Maddon clearly opted out for that specific job.  Its shady and it would be shady regardless of whatever team he went to.

 

It seems like you guys are making a big deal over nothing.

 

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2014/10/31/7137521/joe-maddon-cubs-rick-renteria

[mtangelsfan]

Sigh, aw math.  Anything that comes up for discussion = "big deal".

 

 

They certainly did not talk to him before Maddon opted out which was clearly to take the Cubs job.

[Lhalo]

So what?

 

Edit: Ah... I missed the sarc.

Edited October 31, 2014 by Lawrence

[T.G.]

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/31/joe-maddons-pursuit-of-the-cubs-job-called-a-classless-act-by-some-in-the-game/

 

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cubs-had-little-choice-but-to-act-swiftly--coldly-in-pursuit-of-their-ray-of-hope-232439501.html

 

There is definitely a sentiment out there that the Cubs move was "tacky" or "shady."

[Jobu]

Sounds like more "unwritten rules" nonsense. All that matters is if the Cubs got better. Anytime you see the phrases "fraternity" or "lifer" you're probably dealing with some backwards ideas.

Also, where is the idea that Maddon was gunning for this job coming from?

[Coachbulldog]

There are plenty of free agents out there for the Angels to choose from and each would replace someone already on the roster. Management is no different, you jump on the best guy available if you can afford him.

 

 

Sounds like more "unwritten rules" nonsense. All that matters is if the Cubs got better. Anytime you see the phrases "fraternity" or "lifer" you're probably dealing with some backwards ideas.

Also, where is the idea that Maddon was gunning for this job coming from?

 

I agree this is nothing more than a free agent signing and to say otherwise is following some unwritten code that has no basis in reality. The only important question is are the Cubs better today with Maddon than they were last week with Renteria? That's a pretty easy question to answer. 

[mtangelsfan]

It is a different world these days TG.

[Coachbulldog]

So.. common courtesy and professionalism are now unwritten rules?  Renteria is left dangling in the wind right now... and that's okay as long as it makes the Cubs better?

 

In a word, yes. The only function of a MLB team is win as many games as possible. I don't believe there is any disagreement that Maddon is a better manager than Renteria so the Cubs had to make the move even if it meant not demonstrating "common courtsey."

[Mark68]

In a word, yes. The only function of a MLB team is win as many games as possible. I don't believe there is any disagreement that Maddon is a better manager than Renteria so the Cubs had to make the move even if it meant not demonstrating "common courtsey."

I LOL'd at "common courtsey".

 

Take a bow.

 

This sucks for Renteria because he is twisting in the wind, but it's great for the Cubs. I don't think there is any doubt whatsoever that the Cubs are better today than they were yesterday. Was it wrong for it to be done this way? Probably.

[mtangelsfan]

The Cubs had Renteria murdered.  Sucks but the Cubs are better off now.

[Docwaukee]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/10/cubs-fire-rick-renteria.html

 

 

If they did what they said they did, then the cubs handled this professionally in my opinion.  

[Blarg]

Epstein is higher up the food chain in terms of real success.

[Docwaukee]

Breaking news:  Epstein's wife informs him that if George Clooney becomes available - he's out.

the cubs had a business relationship with Renteria and according to them, the process was transparent.  

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

I liked the cubs statement today.   Apologetic but upfront.

[mtangelsfan]

the cubs had a business relationship with Renteria and according to them, the process was transparent.  

 

So them telling he was going to be back and then breaking that promise is no problem?

 

I must be from another time.