Scherzer, Lester or Shields.........

[Ohtaniland]

None of the three, all are 30+.

Let's see if Arte learned his lesson from GMJHGH, Too Blessed Wells, Pujols, Nibs, Roger Dorn Hackilton, et al.

You tell'em AO

[ELEVEN]

Go get Mrs McCarthy.

[T.G.]

Sign all 3... just so I can watch this board explode.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Im in the camp to sign one. That said, i think boston nabs 2 of them.

[Hollyw00d]

All 3 will be more expensive than they're worth.

Pass

[Hollyw00d]

Sign jake peavy and edinson volquez to one year deals and call if an offseason

[disarcina]

I don't see the Halos seriously making a bid for any of these guys -- perhaps Shields -- but after KC's post-season run, I don't see how the Royals don't do what it takes to bring him back on a one plus one type deal.......

 

Scherzer is looking for Grienke/Kershaw type contract and I don't see the Halos doing that and I don't think they should......that's a lot of money tied up in one player, a rotation guy -- if the KC Royals and even the SF Giants match up shows anything -- it's that it is more about team chemistry than big contracts.......Halos have enough big long term contracts......they should shy away from any more.

 

I don't see Lester staying on the West Coast -- I think he returns to Boston - would make the most sense for him -- these guys make enough money with all these contracts, I think with a guy like Lester it is more important to go some place where he is comfortable with the surroundings and can pitch well...........Boston is the place for Lester.

 

If I were the Angels, one guy I would really try to sign this year would be Wade Davis -- before KC's late season/ post season run, it was just assumed that the Royals would not pay what it would take to re-sign-- now they might -- but Davis signed for rotation type money for his last contract (two years ago?) and has been converted to a set up/ pen guy (and a very successful one).

 

So my take would be this -- we don't have the money or the desire to sign a top flight rotation guy -- let's go with the best we got in the system (Shoemaker should be back, hopefully Garrett Richards will be back by June/ July -- but we can't count on him -- Weaver's back and I have to believe that CJ Wilson has something left even if its just the first half and perhaps as a fourth starter, five / six inning pitcher --)

 

I would try to boost the pen as we had some late season success with that formula -- (and KC, among others, has shown that when a team can shorten games, they win games) -- so what's Street's situation, we need him back, Smith is back, we need to add some quality pen arms --

 

so, I wouldn't go after Sherzer, Lester -- maybe Shields -- but I think the Royals front office would face an uproar if they let Shields get away -- regardless of the W/S outcome.

[QuinlansMinion]

Lets not get carried away and think Kc is going to retain their big guns like Shields. After all, they still play in that craphole known as Kansas City. I could see Shieds going to the Giants quite frankly.

[NorCal Halo]

Scherzer/Lester

Shields.

 

Right, my team has no chance.

I am OK with your team not having a chance

[red321]

Lester is the guy who you can get without giving up a draft pick.

 

With that said.

 

If you had to sign one of them I would say whomever you could sign to the shortest term deal. Back-end of all those deals is bound to be iffy at best.

[QuinlansMinion]

Anyone still crazy about getting Shields.

[Brent Maguire]

Anyone still crazy about getting Shields.

33 years old and has a boatload of innings thrown in his career. 

 

While his velocity was actually at a career high this year, I don't see him being more than a #3/4 starter for the next few years. 

[Torridd]

Lester is the easy choice. Plenty of postseason experience, throws lefty.

[maximus p]

All of them are 30 or older. Hopefully the FO has learned a hard lesson about offering big money contracts to players in that age range, with the ones we have already eaten and the ones we still have.

I'm for passing on all of them. Let another club take the risk.

Yep!

[Hollyw00d]

Lester is the easy choice. Plenty of postseason experience, throws lefty.

he'll also most likely to be the most expensive, dude made it clear he wants to pitch in Boston.

he's also the least likely to bust, imo. He's been solid his whole career

[DW711]

All 3 will be more expensive than they're worth.

Pass

 

You could really say that about 98% of the players out there. If not more.

[DW711]

I am OK with your team not having a chance

 

yeah....

 

For all the complaining Angel fans do...try being an A's fan.

 

Go ahead, try it. This is the biggest tease franchise I've ever seen.

 

Well, maybe tied with the Sharks. Maybe.

[Stradling]

Yea the team has to decide if they are going to change it's identity or not. Are you a big market team that spends money on big name free agents or are you going to develop your own through trades and the draft? We as fans have to decide if we are patient enough (most of is aren't) to wait out a philosophic change. By the way fewer and fewer 25-28 year old starting pitchers are hitting the market, same goes for high caliber offensive talent. So if you want a front line starter from the market, they are going to be expensive and 30+. In the year where there is a 25-28 year old starter, they will be giving them 7-8 year deals instead of 5-6.

[NorCal Halo]

yeah....

 

For all the complaining Angel fans do...try being an A's fan.

 

Go ahead, try it. This is the biggest tease franchise I've ever seen.

 

Well, maybe tied with the Sharks. Maybe.

DW711 has all my respect for being a consistent contributing member of this forum. 

 

When I think of the A's and the A's-Angels rilvary, I remember Jason Kendall stealing home when KRod threw a tantrum and forgot to catch the ball.  I remember thinking to myself, I despise and admire these A's all at the same time.

 

In other words, it's great to talk baseball with anybody.

Edited October 25, 2014 by NorCal Halo

[VariousCrap]

IMO, Liriano is the pitcher to get.  He won't cost as much as these three, but he is a solid pitcher.

 

Richards, Weaver, Shoemaker, Liriano & Wilson would be a solid rotation, especially if Wilson can bounce back.

[DW711]

81 walks in 162 innings? No thanks.

[Hollyw00d]

You could really say that about 98% of the players out there. If not more.

I disagree, I think there is a lot of value to be found on the free agent market.

It's the most overhyped, big names guys who flop more often than not

[Brent Maguire]

IMO, Liriano is the pitcher to get.  He won't cost as much as these three, but he is a solid pitcher.

 

Richards, Weaver, Shoemaker, Liriano & Wilson would be a solid rotation, especially if Wilson can bounce back.

I like McCarthy. His peripherals have always been good and the last few years, he's been in hitters parks in New York and Arizona.

 

Injuries are a concern but even 150 innings from him is valuable. I'd sign him to a 2/25 or 3/30 type of deal. 

[Angel Oracle]

Mr. and Mrs. McCarthy as a package deal is nice.

 

He finally pitched 200+ innings in 2014 for the first time, and had a rock solid 1.15 WHIP and 2.89 ERA in 14 starts for the Skanks after leaving Arizona.

 

Of course, the Skanks don't have much themselves after Tanaka and the always health question Pineda and big health risk and declining Sabathia.

 

I can see the Skanks offering McCarthy 4 years/$50 million.

Edited October 23, 2014 by Angel Oracle

[Guest]

Mr. and Mrs. McCarthy as a package deal is nice.

 

He finally pitched 200+ innings in 2014 for the first time, and had a rock solid 1.15 WHIP and 2.89 ERA in 14 starts for the Skanks after leaving Arizona.

 

Of course, the Skanks don't have much themselves after Tanaka and the always health question Pineda and big health risk and declining Sabathia.

 

I can see the Skanks offering McCarthy 4 years/$50 million.

The Angels should have signed McCarthy instead of Joe Blanton in 2013. I actually said this at the time.