WFAN rumor: Mets interested in Hamilton

[Hollyw00d]

Weak response.

[Stradling]

Yea we would pay him, an offensive player $20 million instead of $25 million, so yes we would still be stocked in offensive expensive players. Oh and if we are paying him to play on a different team there's no chance for him to be a valuable player for us.

[Lou]

Weak response.

 

It's ok to just say you were wrong in this case.  If anybody makes fun of you just let me know and I'll take care of them.

 

you're welcome

[yk9001]

A guy with his finger up his ass told me that CJ Wilson is headed to the Florida Marlins.

 

Good lord.  Four pages over some sh*t flung on a wall.

[Hollyw00d]

Yea we would pay him, an offensive player $20 million instead of $25 million, so yes we would still be stocked in offensive expensive players. Oh and if we are paying him to play on a different team there's no chance for him to be a valuable player for us.

The difference being the roster spot would be freed for another need (like SP), some of the contract impact would be lessened, an average to below hitter would be removed from the clean up and/or middle of the order, defense in left field would be improved, and the clubhouse and team attitude would improve.

That's the difference. How you see that as the "same" argument is beyond me.

[Hollyw00d]

It's ok to just say you were wrong in this case.  If anybody makes fun of you just let me know and I'll take care of them.

 

you're welcome

Math isn't your strong suit obviously.

[Lou]

how would a roster spot open up if we're getting a player back? can still only carry 25 on the roster

[Lou]

Math isn't your strong suit obviously.

 

you said players,  not % of team payroll.

[Hollyw00d]

how would a roster spot open up if we're getting a player back? can still only carry 25 on the roster

We would be getting back a pitcher, which we need, replacing an average hitter, which we don't need.

[Stradling]

Because Niese wouldn't be replacing Hamilton he would be replacing Rasmus in the rotation. Is he better than Rasmus? Then we would get Cowgill in LF, is he better than Hamilton? Doubtful. As far as team attitude, well more than a couple people on the team talked about how great the clubhouse was this year, so to assume he was an issue is just a guess on your part.

[Hollyw00d]

you said players,  not % of team payroll.

Because it shows a better picture of their impact on this team than just saying 2 of 25 players, which has zero relevance without context.

[Stradling]

We would basically be paying Niese $30 million a year

[Lou]

You're the one who said players. I merely asked you to name this stockpile of overpaid hitters you were referring to.

 

Then you changed the argument - my guess is because you realized your statement was incorrect 

[Hollyw00d]

40% of the payroll is a stockpile.

Thanks for playing.

[Hollyw00d]

We would basically be paying Niese $30 million a year

No we would be paying Hamilton 20 a year and niese 9 a year.

[Coachbulldog]

What the f is a "per Carton"?

Craig Carton, along with Boomer Esiason, host the morning show on WFAN in NYC. I listen to the show on my phone once in a while and, even though he is entertaining, Craig Carton is about as unreliable of a source as you can find in the media.

[Jeff Fletcher]

Thank you for providing some facts! Do you think this is anything more than NY radio speculation?

Nope.

I'd say there is approximately 0.2 percent chance this is real.

[Lou]

40% of the payroll is a stockpile.

Thanks for playing.

 

lol thanks for being wrong

[tdawg87]

This thread got pretty good.

[Stradling]

I'd rather keep and play Hamilton over paying him $20 million and Niese $9 million. I would fix the staff by signing one of the big name guys, I don't care which one. If we lose the last pick in the first round or whatever that pick would be so be it. I would also then trade Howie for the best young arm or arms I could get.

[Inside Pitch]

Niese has been 3.40, 3.71 and 3.40 the last 3 years....pitcher friendly park and easier league to pitch in but not sure it equates to an ERA a full run a game higher....

 

His most recent three year sample includes his career season  -- he's managed an ERA+ of 105 over that span, he's at 99 the last 2 years.    AL batters put up a .301/.329/.493 line against him this year -- for his career (16 starts) those numbers rise to .315/.370.512 -- a 4.78 ERA, WHIP over 1.5.  His career ERA home Vs. away is 0.72 higher away.   A person could argue that the AL sample size is too small, they could just as easily argue that it's common for players to do better at home than on the road, none of this guarantees he would suck, but there is enough there to question his ability to make the transition from the NL to the AL.  Add in the questions regarding his arm and the reality that he's guaranteed 17 mil ... I don't think the guy sucks, but there is just a lot not to like IMO..

[ukyah]

This thread got pretty good.

 

 

i don't know, it seems to be just going round and round semantically between hollywood and lou. 

[Erstad Grit]

As bad as I don't like Hambone I would not do this deal. 

 

More teams than the Mets would pay Hambone 3 years 20 million. 

Edited October 14, 2014 by Erstad Grit

[NJHalo]

Wow, things must be slow if I got 5 pages out of repeating what Craig Carton said was a rumor he heard from someone he knows who works for the Mets.

[Lou]

i don't know, it seems to be just going round and round semantically between hollywood and lou. 

 

wait til i let him know. Pujols and Hamilton don't account for 40% of our payroll 

 

our stockpile is dwindling!!!