The O's leave Jimenez off the roster

[Angels]

Right, the GM would have much rather have started Rasmus and gone with a bullpen game instead or do you think he would have gone with Santiago?

Fact; 2 of last 3 starts by Wilson were good starts. Fact: Santiago is an inconsistent as Wilson. Fact: The idea of a bullpen game is a desperate gamble considering you wouldn't want to burn out your pen unless absolutely necessary.

Good starts? They were akin to a blind squirrel finding an acorn. He had more walks than strikeouts in that final "good" start, only two strikeouts, and at one point during the first few innings threw more balls than strikes. It was obvious he wasn't pitching well

Santiago may have been inconsistent and far from a good option...but compared to Wilson? ...

And hey, speaking of bullpen games...do you think that Wilson would've given the team more innings than Rasmus or Santiago? I mean, what was the difference as far as expected innings? Forget quality innings for a sec.... just expected innings. Was there some difference to be expected there?

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[Angels]

I think Dipoto like Wilson more than Scioscia does.

And the manager decides who to play in the regular season because you can't tailor the roster so specifically for a small sample of games. In the playoffs, you can be pretty sure that Scioscia and Dipoto agreed on who would be on the roster and who would play.

Ok, so... in the event of a disagreement, who has the final say? The manager or the general manager? If Scioscia wanted Wilson to start and Dipoto wanted Rasmus or Santiago, who got the final say?

This is assuming that they don't agree with each other or think alike 100% of the time...

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[Stradling]

What if it was Dipoto who got the final say and so Scioscia's hands were tied and he started Wilson and Hamilton. Now what? There's as much logic to support that. Was it Scioscia who signed Wilson and Hamilton? No, it was Dipoto. As far as who gets the final say, well for in game decisions it's Mike, for who's on the roster it's Dipoto. For who's in the lineup it's a group decision. Fletcher told us as much and he's the only one here with any inside knowledge. Obviously I have no idea who told who that Wilson was starting or Hamilton for that matter, but you sure seem hellbent on making Scioscia out to be the reason for all the teams failures. By the way, when IP listen those names he wasn't listing Dipotos failures, he was listing his failures that weren't saber type picks.

[Angels]

It may have been a group decision but you assume that Scioscia and Dipoto agree with each other and think alike 100% of the time.

Tell me... if Scioscia wanted a "proven" veteran like Wilson over Rasmus and Santiago in Game 3... and Dipoto wanted Rasmus or Santiago... who had the final say? Something had to give, right? Compromise? Were they sitting in a room for hours with their legs and arms crossed...waiting for someone to blink first? Who would have the final say in the event of a disagreement?

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[Stradling]

No I don't assume they agree, you keep saying that but I don't imply that at all.

As far as who would have the final say, my guess is the guy that's the boss.

Like I said in my previous post, there's as much to indicate Dipoto wanted those two as there is Scioscia, if not more. As guys like you like to point out Mike is here for awhile, while Dipoto has one more year left. I'm guessing one is less secure than the other.

We can go back and forth all night long but neither of us know for sure. You can call me an apologist I can call you a hater. In the end we will never know, and if we find out then one of the two guys has been fired.

[Angels]

Exactly. We will never know for sure. In the end, you will think what you think and I'll think what I think.

[Jeff Fletcher]

This is a wonderful hypothetical, but I feel pretty certain that both Dipoto and Scioscia wanted Wilson over Santiago or Rasmus.

[mancini79]

Exactly. We will never know for sure. In the end, you will think what you think and I'll think what I think.

 

In other words you have already made up your mind and even credible sources will not change your mind.

[stormngt]

Funny because I thought Wilson shut out the Mariners on the game we clinched. And on his last start he gave up 1 run.

Good starts? They were akin to a blind squirrel finding an acorn. He had more walks than strikeouts in that final "good" start, only two strikeouts, and at one point during the first few innings threw more balls than strikes. It was obvious he wasn't pitching well

Santiago may have been inconsistent and far from a good option...but compared to Wilson? ...

And hey, speaking of bullpen games...do you think that Wilson would've given the team more innings than Rasmus or Santiago? I mean, what was the difference as far as expected innings? Forget quality innings for a sec.... just expected innings. Was there some difference to be expected there?

[Blarg]

"Showalter, who has shown us that he knows what he's doing, opted to put relief pitcher Brian Matusz on his team's ALCS roster instead of Jimenez, who was on the ALDS roster but didn't play."

 

 

Matuz gave up a 10th inning home run last night.

Edited October 11, 2014 by notti

[Angels]

In other words you have already made up your mind and even credible sources will not change your mind.

Show me a quote from Dipoto that proves it.

[ABC]

"Showalter, who has shown us that he knows what he's doing, opted to put relief pitcher Brian Matusz on his team's ALCS roster instead of Jimenez, who was on the ALDS roster but didn't play."

 

 

Matuz gave up a 10th inning home run last night.

 

Every time I see Matusz I think of Eddie Bane and the $1MM regret. Is Matusz a bust?