Angels Official Website: Hamilton, Shoemaker remain iffy for ALDS

[AngelsWin.com]

The Angels still aren't sure when Josh Hamilton and Matt Shoemaker will return to full baseball activities, how much action they'll get before the start of the postseason or if they'll even be healthy enough to play when the American League Division Series starts on Oct. 2.

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[wopphil]

I don't understand how Shoemaker could so badly injure himself reaching up to catch a ball. Did he tear his oblique?

[fan_since79]

Even "mildly" strained obliques can last a long time.

 

But the MRI said no tear, so there's hope.

[Angel Oracle]

The rotation deep down was always a bit of a facade going into 2014. Now it's basically one you would find with a .500 team.

[SoWhat]

I'm still not over the injury to Richards.

With Weaver in vintage form, even throwing 91 again, it stings thinking about how far the Angels could go in the playoffs with those 2 leading the staff.

Edited September 23, 2014 by SoWhat

[Second Base]

They'll both be back for the playoffs.  You know it can be a once in a lifetime opportunity for a lot of players and they'll play hurt undoubtedly. 

[Chuck]

They'll both be back for the playoffs.  You know it can be a once in a lifetime opportunity for a lot of players and they'll play hurt undoubtedly. 

 

 

I agree. I can't see them both not contributing in the ALDS. I was just hoping Shoe and Hamilton could get in a game before the end of the regular season to prep for the postseason. 

[rageous]

If Shoemaker is out, the Angels have zero chance to win the world series.

[Ohtaniland]

If Shoemaker is out, the Angels have zero chance to win the world series.

 

Shoemaker has zero postseason experience. He might get hammered.

[QuinlansMinion]

If Shoemaker is out, the Angels have zero chance to win the world series.

 

I agree.  Hes beaten a lot of aces this year, he has the makings of a big game pitcher.  He can strike people out and he keeps the ball down, plus his numbers dont suggest hes been a fluke.  Hes been arguably the most dominant pitcher of the 2nd half.  

 

I also dont think any of the lineups in the AL are that good.  The only one that could worry me is Detroit, Shoemaker threw 7 shutout innings against them when he faced them in July.  Then you have KC, best hitter has an OPS under .800.  Baltimore has no depth in their lineup, basically 2 or 3 productive guys but no real superstar talent.  Oakland and Seattle, yeah.  

Edited September 23, 2014 by QuinlansMinion

[stormngt]

I think that is an optimistic outlook. Weaver is good. CO and Santiago are the type of pitchers 500 teams. We don't have any other starters so I would say a rotation of a sub 500 team. Angeles pulled off a miracle winning the way they did.

The rotation deep down was always a bit of a facade going into 2014. Now it's basically one you would find with a .500 team.

[Erstad Grit]

Rotation minus Richards, Shoe, and to a lesser extent Skaggs = SH#T!

 

That's like Dodgers losing Greinke, Ryu, and Haren. 

[gurn67]

Maybe I'm wrong, but this team won a World Series with Kevin Appier starting game 2 and Ramon Ortiz starting game 3. With the bullpen as deep as it is, it's going to come down to whether the offense is clicking or not.

[Hollyw00d]

Is it possible to pitch effectively through a strained oblique? I'm thinking no, or guys would be doing it

[Hollyw00d]

Ramon Ortiz >>>>>>> CJ wilson

Kevin appier > injured shoemaker/bullpen extravaganza

[Sherlock31]

Maybe I'm wrong, but this team won a World Series with Kevin Appier starting game 2 and Ramon Ortiz starting game 3. With the bullpen as deep as it is, it's going to come down to whether the offense is clicking or not.

The problem is we don't even have an Appier or Ortiz.............all we got besides Weaver is CJ I can't even last 1 inning Wilson and Hector I can't find the stirke zone Santiago.

[joeywings]

Ramon Ortiz >>>>>>> CJ wilson

Kevin appier > injured shoemaker/bullpen extravaganza

Appier got to the 5th or 6th innings though.

He junked his way there.

[Erstad Grit]

Maybe I'm wrong, but this team won a World Series with Kevin Appier starting game 2 and Ramon Ortiz starting game 3. With the bullpen as deep as it is, it's going to come down to whether the offense is clicking or not.

 

2002 Washburn >>>>>  2014 Weaver

Lackey, Ortiz, Appier >>>>>> 2014 staff without Shoe 

[nando714]

2 shits about Hamilton. We need the beard

[Butcher'd]

Weaver's a 6 inning pitcher - a good one

 

Santiago is inconsistent and young

 

CJ is just awful

 

Rasmus is a 3-4 inning pitcher

 

Those are our healthy pitchers that will make the postseason roster and can throw at least 3 innings. It's a tall order for a bullpen, I don't care how stacked it is. You can't blame Dipoto for injuries striking, but many here were clamoring for him to go out and get another proven starter. In hindsight he should have. Oh well, let's let it play out and hope Shoemaker gets healthy.

[Guest]

Rotation minus Richards, Shoe, and to a lesser extent Skaggs = SH#T!

 

That's like Dodgers losing Greinke, Ryu, and Haren. 

 

More like the Dodgers [hypothetically] losing Kershaw, Ryu, Beckett and Haren leaving a rotation of Greinke + random scrubs.

[jdodd]

Didn't  Kevin Appier start game 6 and go 5 good innings. I remember  him swearing at Scioscia when he got the hook. He wanted to stay in. Dude had heart.

[Jimmag]

If there is no Shoe in the ALDS we better find a glass slipper.

 

Cinderella Rasmus

[Adam]

Didn't  Kevin Appier start game 6 and go 5 good innings. I remember  him swearing at Scioscia when he got the hook. He wanted to stay in. Dude had heart.

 

...and hated throwing strikes. He was like CJ

[WallyWorld]

This is where finishing with the best record should help in the ALDS. Best case scenario IMO would be playing KC, who really only have 1 very good pitcher. If Shoemaker isn't ready to go in the ALDS, I still think the Angels could squeak through against KC and then hopefully get Shoe back for the ALCS.