Cowgill is 15th in the AL in WAR and 90% of the guys ahead of him have 200+ more ABs

[Halos of Anaheim]

2.3 WAR

 

He basically replaced Bourjos as our 4th outfielder.

 

Another interesting tidbit, 7 out of the top 15 players in the AL in WAR are Angels (Trout, Pujols, Kendrick, Aybar, Calhoun, Iannetta and again Cowgill).

[Taylor]

He's also first in the MLB in AbsWAR.

[DJInferno]

Where do u get ABS War data?

[Angels]

15th in the AL with a 2.3 WAR? Compared to every position player in the AL? Doesn't seem accurate.

[Angels]

Cowgill's 2.1 fWAR puts him at 53 among all position players in the AL.

[YouthofToday]

This goes to show you how a platoon can work wonders to create value.

[laagamer]

Interesting

[Blarg]

Where do u get ABS War data?

 

From women on twitter posting this pic.

 

 

https://twitter.com/JennyBaseballl/status/476617353522728960/photo/1

[UndertheHalo]

bourjos is irreplaceable. how dare you.

Edited September 2, 2014 by UndertheHalo

[Guest]

bourjos is irreplaceable. how dare you.

 

Hopefully everyone here forgot that I was one of teh people who was contantly b*tching about the Freese trade...

[ten ocho recon scout]

Been saying it for awhile. Cowgill is a super solid bench piece. Can work counts, plus runner, and plus defense.

Hes been overshadowed, but IMO he was one of the main reasons we kept in the race that first wuarter of the season when calhoun and hamilton were hurt.

The difference this year has been pitching, mainly the improved pen. But the other big difference is we finally have a bench that provides something other than just filler.

[Halos of Anaheim]

Cowgill's 2.1 fWAR puts him at 53 among all position players in the AL.

Huh? There are 52 other position players in the AL who have a WAR higher than 2.3? I based my list off of ESPN/Baseball References rankings.

Edited September 2, 2014 by Halos of Anaheim

[HaloMagic]

Remember when we didn't like WAR because of it being new and players like GA never rating very high? But then we liked it because we signed Vlad and his WAR with Montreal was so high. But then his WAR slipped with us a little so the stat kinda sucked again. But then Trout came along and so the number was super cool again. But then Trout's defense slipped and Donaldson had a high WAR so the number wasn't so good anymore. But now Cowgill is 15th in the league (aka 53rd) and now the number matters.

It's getting really hard to keep track.

[Adam]

Lol

[jsnpritchett]

2.3 WAR

 

He basically replaced Bourjos as our 4th outfielder.

 

Another interesting tidbit, 7 out of the top 15 players in the AL in WAR are Angels (Trout, Pujols, Kendrick, Aybar, Calhoun, Iannetta and again Cowgill).

 

Where are you getting your stats? 

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL/2014-value-batting.shtml

 

If you sort by WAR here, he's 51st among position players in the AL.

[jsnpritchett]

Huh? There are 52 other position players in the AL who have a WAR higher than 2.3? I based my list off of ESPN/Baseball References rankings.

 

I checked ESPN, too.  They have him 50th:

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting/_/league/al/sort/WARBR/count/41/qualified/false

[Blarg]

Maybe he sorted by players with great abs.

[Angelsjunky]

"15th" is dyslexic for "51st."

[Blarg]

On the ESPN stats sort by AL and outfielders only and he checks in at 20th.

Sort by right fielder only and he is 5th.

Pretty Damn good for a fourth outfielder.

[eaterfan]

I haven't looked deeply into the platoon numbers or anything like that, but why is Freese DHing when Cowgill is an option (assuming Beckham at 3rd and the regular starting outfield)?

[Stradling]

Remember when we didn't like WAR because of it being new and players like GA never rating very high? But then we liked it because we signed Vlad and his WAR with Montreal was so high. But then his WAR slipped with us a little so the stat kinda sucked again. But then Trout came along and so the number was super cool again. But then Trout's defense slipped and Donaldson had a high WAR so the number wasn't so good anymore. But now Cowgill is 15th in the league (aka 53rd) and now the number matters.

It's getting really hard to keep track.

I kinda like this post a lot. I value the stat for offense but not for defense. Any stat that says Trout is below average defensively based solely on his arm is a shit stat. He has a weak arm but he is still a plus defensive center fielder for now.

[Guest]

I haven't looked deeply into the platoon numbers or anything like that, but why is Freese DHing when Cowgill is an option (assuming Beckham at 3rd and the regular starting outfield)?

Scioscia Veteran Bias?

[Angelsjunky]

Cowgill is the best outfielder in the world if you sort by AL, RF, and in the "Co-Cp" for last name.

[Angelsjunky]

Remember when we didn't like WAR because of it being new and players like GA never rating very high? But then we liked it because we signed Vlad and his WAR with Montreal was so high. But then his WAR slipped with us a little so the stat kinda sucked again. But then Trout came along and so the number was super cool again. But then Trout's defense slipped and Donaldson had a high WAR so the number wasn't so good anymore. But now Cowgill is 15th in the league (aka 53rd) and now the number matters.

It's getting really hard to keep track.

 

 

I kinda like this post a lot. I value the stat for offense but not for defense. Any stat that says Trout is below average defensively based solely on his arm is a shit stat. He has a weak arm but he is still a plus defensive center fielder for now.

 

But you do realize, Stradling, that he's essentially saying "We see what we want to see, or what supports our bias."

 

I mean, I'll be the first to admit that when Trout's Defensive WAR was going down I started writing Def WAR off. But I think that speaks to my homerism more than it does to WAR being wrong about Trout. (FYI, Trout's Def has been going up again over the last couple weeks - so I'm starting to think WAR might be good again )

Edited September 2, 2014 by Angelsjunky

[Angels]

Huh? There are 52 other position players in the AL who have a WAR higher than 2.3? I based my list off of ESPN/Baseball References rankings.

I don't think you looked at it correctly.