What a difference a year makes

[fan_since79]

On August 27th, the 2014 Angels have 78 wins, which matches their total from all of last year.

 

What a turnaround!

 

 

[RallyMo]

FIRE SCIOSCIA!

[Angel Dog and Beer]

Comeback team of the year.

[fan_since79]

Manager of the Year?

[The God of Runs]

Team of destiny

[JarsOfClay]

FIRE SCIOSCIA!

 

smoke and mirrors.

 

btw where were you the last 5 seasons?  or is scioscia not accountable for losing?

[nando714]

And we're still b!tching

[RallyMo]

smoke and mirrors.

btw where were you the last 5 seasons? or is scioscia not accountable for losing?

I was right here. Where were you?

Of course he has something to do with everything that's happened in the last fifteen years. What of it? Would the organization be better off this year if he was fired in 2012 or 2013? Nope. Would we have 10 more wins this year? Nope.

He's one of the best managers of all time. At the rate he's going, he's going to make the Hall of Fame as a manager.

Sorry that you have had to endure a Hall of Fame worthy manager for a decade and a half. It's horrendous.

Edited August 27, 2014 by RallyMo

[fan_since79]

He's done a lot of things well, but the contact play...

 

IT DOESN'T WORK!!

[RallyMo]

Well, the contact play blows. We can all pretty much agree on that. Thankfully, that's one of his few shortcomings.

[fan_since79]

He tends to leave starters in too long when they're in trouble.

 

I know....nitpicking.

[Stradling]

smoke and mirrors.

btw where were you the last 5 seasons? or is scioscia not accountable for losing?

How many of those years were losing seasons? If I recall, only one of those seasons was truly a bad season, and that was last year. A year where we had half of Albert for half the year, not much of Josh Hamilton, and a pitching staff that seriously sucked from top to bottom. So blame Scioscia if you'd like, as long as you don't expect anyone with commonsense to respect your opinion.

[Angel Oracle]

The hitting carried them through the ASB (with help from Weave, GRich, and later on the pen), and now the pitching has carried them from that point.

Now, imagine having both working simultaneously!

[Stradling]

The hitting carried them through the ASB (with help from Weave, GRich, and later on the pen), and now the pitching has carried them from that point.

Now, imagine having both working simultaneously!

Lets just hope that is the case in October.

[fan_since79]

The fact that Trout and Pujols combined for six hits last night is a small miracle.

 

We need more of that going forward.

[RallyMo]

How many of those years were losing seasons? If I recall, only one of those seasons was truly a bad season, and that was last year. A year where we had half of Albert for half the year, not much of Josh Hamilton, and a pitching staff that seriously sucked from top to bottom. So blame Scioscia if you'd like, as long as you don't expect anyone with commonsense to respect your opinion.

I think he'd be hard pressed to make a convincing argument (when looking at his overall record as a manager) that Scioscia isn't one of the best of all time. If you want to consider last year, you have to consider this year.

The fact stands: his record is Hall of Fame material. All you have to do to figure that out is look at the list of managers that have made the HOF and then look at their achievements.

Edited August 27, 2014 by RallyMo

[wopphil]

I think scioscia has managed better this year. I think he has been less stubborn and more willing to make less popular decisions. He has also acted with more urgency.

If I were voting for manager of the year, it would be between Scioscia and Showlater.

[Stradling]

I think scioscia has managed better this year. I think he has been less stubborn and more willing to make less popular decisions. He has also acted with more urgency.

If I were voting for manager of the year, it would be between Scioscia and Showlater.

I agree with this. Except I would also include whoever manages the Royals into the manager of the year.

[Bruce Nye]

How many pitchers on last year's staff can you name?  I got Weaver, CJ and Vargas right away and Frieri in the BP, but the rest took me a while.  You want to talk about difference - wow!

[Angel Oracle]

The difference in the 2010-2013 pen and the 2014 pen is like the difference between the 1899 Cleveland Spiders and 1927 Yankees. 

[tdawg87]

smoke and mirrors.

btw where were you the last 5 seasons? or is scioscia not accountable for losing?

Uhhhh it's literally the exact opposite here. And it pretty much always has been.

Offense doing well? Our hitters are great!

Offense struggling? Fire Hatcher!

Pitching doing well? Our pitchers are awesome!

Pitching struggling? Fire Butcher!

You get the idea.

[dimitrig]

I am not happy with how Scioscia has handled some of the players. The Mathis/Napoli situation comes to mind. If Ibanez hadn't been cut he'd probably still be in the lineup the same way Vernon Wells was.

[RallyMo]

I am not happy with how Scioscia has handled some of the players. The Mathis/Napoli situation comes to mind. If Ibanez hadn't been cut he'd probably still be in the lineup the same way Vernon Wells was.

Possibly, re: Ibanez. Scioscia has been much more proactive this year in many ways.

He obviously didn't handle the Mathis/Naps situation well.

Still, he's a HOF manager.

[bloodbrother]

this year is pretty cool, minus the crappy Richards and Skaggs injuries

Edited August 27, 2014 by bloodbrother

[Oz27]

this year is pretty cool, minus the crappy Richards and Skaggs injuries

I'd forgotten how fun baseball is when you're winning.

 

As for Scioscia, he is one of the better managers and it can be easy to neglect that in frustration. A 10-year contract to a manager is still ridiculous though, no matter how good they are.