Mike Trout Since ALL Star Break!

[Angel Oracle]

The SBs are the biggest disapointment when looking at the 100% SB attempts success rate, and then seeing only 12 attempts.

Whatever the reason is (Pujols, saving wear and tear, etc. ), it's wasting a strength of his.

[Troll Daddy]

Not really. If he continues to slump and ends up hitting, say, .270/.360/.540 with 30 HR, then it will either go to Abreu with his .290+ and 40 HR or King Felix.

I'd be very surprised, though, if Trout doesn't figure things out and finish out something like .300/.390/.570 with 35 HR. That should get him the MVP. Still, it is hard not to feel that with the reduced stolen bases and walks, and the mediocre defense, he's taken a half step back from being head and shoulders above everyone else in baseball to "only" one of the very best players. Hopefully this is just a blip and he'll continue to evolve his game.

You can't discount Cabrera ... Tigers are fighting for their playoff lives. There is a ton of baseball left to be played.

Robbie Cano is having a great year .... power numbers are a bit down but Seattle would be nowhere without him in the lineup. Seattle is still in the hunt for the division title.

[fan_since79]

Not really. If he continues to slump and ends up hitting, say, .270/.360/.540 with 30 HR, then it will either go to Abreu with his .290+ and 40 HR or King Felix.

 

 

 

I don't think they'll give the MVP and the ROY to Abreu. The latter award, of course.

 

Felix is the more probable choice, especially if he continues to shine through the end of the season.

 

Trout will have to get back on board with the numbers to be chosen. A .270 average might be optimistic.

Edited August 17, 2014 by fan_since79

[Guest]

Trout won the 'Vette for being the All-Star game MVP....did you miss that game...because this one "mattered"...

It was also his mom who wanted the 'Vette. Trout had the choice between the 'Vette and a fully loaded Silverado and it looked like he wanted the truck before his mom started redirecting him. 

[Lou]

That is only if BOTH Jose Abreu and V-Mart hit .220 from tomorrow until the end of the season

Wrong

[Stradling]

I don't think they'll give the MVP and the ROY to Abreu. The latter award, of course.

Felix is the more probable choice, especially if he continues to shine through the end of the season.

Trout will have to get back on board with the numbers to be chosen. A .270 average might be optimistic.

It would have been an incredible ROY race if Tanaka would have stayed healthy.

[Lou]

No he is not. But we paid him 30 million when we bought out three years of his free agency. That is what I was referring to. Had the Angels.waited a year they probably would have been able to extend Trout for a lot less.

Then we should wait until he gets to those 3 years to judge whether or not he's worth the money

[mancini79]

22 hits in 105 ABs    37 Strike Outs

 

209 BA      352 Strike outs percentage

 

Maybe the Angels made a mistake extending him this year.  Those numbers certainly doesn't warrant  30 million dollar contract!

 

I read this is as sarcasm...right?!?!

[laagamer]

People want to not lockup Trout?

 

[rageous]

I think this is beyond a normal slump.

It's pitchers realizing he has a gigantic hole in his swing in the upper part of the zone.

His heatmap reveals an obvious weakness and the pitchers are learning to not be afraid of going high with Trout.

He's going to have to adjust his swing to learn how to hit balls in the top of the zone or his days of hitting .900+ ops is over.

[OregonLAA]

Mediocre defense?

[zenmaster]

He will break out big time today.

[rageous]

Mediocre defense?

It's not too far from the truth.

All defensive metrics have him at negative defensive war for this year.

[Lou]

It's not too far from the truth.

All defensive metrics have him at negative defensive war for this year.

Which tells you a lot about dWAR

[rageous]

Which tells you a lot about dWAR

I don't know I watched most of his games and everyone pretty much runs at will on Trout's arm.

That's where lot of his negative value comes from.

[Stradling]

Would you rather have a CF with great range and a average arm or slightly below average arm, or a CF with average to slightly below average range and a great arm? Trout at the absolute least is an average to slightly above average CFer. If there are metrics out there that disagree with that then I believe that metric is worthless. Either that or the range from the best to below average is so minute that it doesn't really affect the outcome of any given game.

[tennischmp]

I don't know I watched most of his games and everyone pretty much runs at will on Trout's arm.

That's where lot of his negative value comes from.

His arm is never going to be great so I guess to you he is always going to be mediocre on defense if you only look at his defensive war.

[Guest]

Would you rather have a CF with great range and a average arm or slightly below average arm, or a CF with average to slightly below average range and a great arm? Trout at the absolute least is an average to slightly above average CFer. If there are metrics out there that disagree with that then I believe that metric is worthless. Either that or the range from the best to below average is so minute that it doesn't really affect the outcome of any given game.

In 2012 Trout was considered the best defensive outfielder by both Fangraphs and Baseball Reference. 

In 2013 for most of the year, IIRC Baseball Reference considered him above average while Fangraphs considered him the worst defensive outfielder in baseball based on the same data.

This year both have him slightly below average.

[Jason]

I agree with VladdyLongLegs that he won't even make the top 3 in the MVP votes. He will finish this season as an above average OFer

[NrM]

I think Storm is still pissed Trout replaced Bourjos.

[rageous]

Would you rather have a CF with great range and a average arm or slightly below average arm, or a CF with average to slightly below average range and a great arm? Trout at the absolute least is an average to slightly above average CFer. If there are metrics out there that disagree with that then I believe that metric is worthless. Either that or the range from the best to below average is so minute that it doesn't really affect the outcome of any given game.

How many above average center fielders have below average range?

[stormngt]

Lol....I was pissed off that Wells and Abreu played over Bourjos. Not Trout.

I think Storm is still pissed Trout replaced Bourjos.

[dimitrig]

I think this is beyond a normal slump.

It's pitchers realizing he has a gigantic hole in his swing in the upper part of the zone.

His heatmap reveals an obvious weakness and the pitchers are learning to not be afraid of going high with Trout.

He's going to have to adjust his swing to learn how to hit balls in the top of the zone or his days of hitting .900+ ops is over.

 

If high fastballs are considered his major weakness then pitchers are going to be in for a helluva surprise when (not if) he figures out how to hit them. Talk about meatballs.

[NrM]

Lol....I was pissed off that Wells and Abreu played over Bourjos. Not Trout.

Is that why you and superdave were the only 2 people who argued against calling up Trout when they did?

[stormngt]

Where the hell did you get that from. I never argued for Trout to be called up. I wanted on the Roster from the get go. I hated seeing Wells and Abreu in the lineup.

So please don't put words in my mouth.

Is that why you and superdave were the only 2 people who argued against calling up Trout when they did?