Richards

[zenmaster]

Well, Kluber and Richards are having very similar years, so what's the problem there? 

The panel was unanimous that Kluber was the more deserving of the 2. I just don't agree.

[Link]

Impressive performance from Richards on the road (sort of).

 

I just had to listen to 20 minutes of the ESPN talking heads describe why Corey Kluber is 3rd in Cy voting ahead of Garrett.  

 

Not really seeing the problem.  Richards has been a dream but they've got nearly identical stats, and Kluber is coming off two consecutive complete game shutouts and 7 1/3 innings of 1 run ball.  His shutout against the M's took only 85 pitches despite 8 strikeouts.

 

I wouldn't have an issue with either of them being being in front of the other.  Kluber strikes out (slightly) more batters per 9 and has been better than Richards lately so it's not all that surprising to see them ranked that way.  One bad start from Kluber and you'll likely see them switch places.

[Make Angels Great Again]

The panel was unanimous that Kluber was the more deserving of the 2. I just don't agree.

 

 

As amazing as Richards has been, Kluber has been ever so slightly better in several categories. 12 more innings, 25 more Ks, 1 more CG, a .03 better ERA (hardly a difference there of course), and a better walk rate.

 

I'm honestly curious why you think Richards has been a better pitcher. 

[wopphil]

I remember when a few guys on here wanted to trade Trumbo for Klueber. I was against that, because I didn't think Kleuber had enough of a history of success, but in hindsight it would have been a fantastic trade.

Question: would you rather have Kleuber, or Santiago and Skaggs?

[jsnpritchett]

I remember when a few guys on here wanted to trade Trumbo for Klueber. I was against that, because I didn't think Kleuber had enough of a history of success, but in hindsight it would have been a fantastic trade.

 

 

I don't think anyone, including Klueber himself, thought he'd turn out to be this good. 

[Angel Oracle]

Kluber is huge, because Masterson crapped the couch after a strong 2013. 

 

I was one of those pushing for a Trumbo/Kluber trade.

But I'm happy with the other trade. 

Edited August 5, 2014 by Angel Oracle

[Sherlock31]

As amazing as Richards has been, Kluber has been ever so slightly better in several categories. 12 more innings, 25 more Ks, 1 more CG, a .03 better ERA (hardly a difference there of course), and a better walk rate.

 

I'm honestly curious why you think Richards has been a better pitcher. 

BAA

 

Richards - 0.195

 

Kluber - 0.233

[ettin]

Well if I recall correctly Angelswin.com spoke to someone (Eddie Bane?) about Richards and, I am paraphrasing, said "Pitchers who command two good pitches become Major League relievers.... those that have three good pitches become Major League starters.... and those that have four good pitches are Garrett Richards." Something like that. This isn't a complete surprise to me regarding how well Richards has performed, I've strongly felt for a few years now he was capable of front-of-the-rotation work.

Congrats Garrett! Well deserved and earned!

[Guest]

Richards gave the bullpen a much needed night off. He's the ace, but Weaver is still the leader.