2nd Best Pitcher

[OregonLAA]

Who has been the 2nd best pitcher for us this year after Richards? I think it's a close call between a few guys. And Santiago gets a bad rap, but he has been solid for us in any role we give him

Edited July 26, 2014 by OregonLAA

[santini1]

No freiri...? Damn, in that case ill have to go with weaver.

[SoWhat]

Lol this is a serious question?

[Guest]

Lol this is a serious question?

We have at least 2 starters not listed in the pole that are better than Santiago.

[m0nkey]

David Carpenter

[Docwaukee]

For me it's a tie between Smith and Weaver.  Not sure I would label either '2nd best' but I think they are neck and neck relative to importance/impact.  

[The God of Runs]

Shoemaker has contributed above and beyond what anyone could have expected of him.

[Taylor]

Street

[19HALO71]

For the whole season I would say Weaver. But as of late, I say Shoemaker.

[Agalloch]

I'm still going Weaver but that's cause I didn't see Street as an option.

[Ochocinco!]

Mr. Houston Street

[laagamer]

Santiago

[Docwaukee]

I would like to change my vote to Randy Wolf.  

[nate]

So many people pick Weaver but in reality it is Jepsen.

[The God of Runs]

Shoemaker 4.13 ERA, 8-3 record (2nd best winning pct. among the starters) and Ace-Killer

Edited July 27, 2014 by The God of Runs

[Taylor]

Pitcher W/L record is a useless stat.

[Hollyw00d]

So many people pick Weaver but in reality it is Jepsen.

weaver has pitched 3x as many innings as jeppy

[nate]

weaver has pitched 3x as many innings as jeppy

 

And given up 6x as many runs.

[Angel Oracle]

I went with Weaver. Aside from the struggles as he approaches 100 pitches, he is looking almost as solid as he was in 2012.

Best bullpen guy has to be the finally emerging after 12 seasons in the org Jepsen, followed by Smith who aside from 3-4 blown saves in a non-closing role earlier on has been everything expected and maybe then some.

[tomsred]

Interesting, what happened to all the love for Morin?  And where is the Butcher option?

[Angel Oracle]

Morin is in a bit of a tailspin over the past month.

Pre-June 28 = 1.37 ERA and 0.95 WHIP

June 28 and forward = 5.50 ERA and 1.60 WHIP

Edited July 27, 2014 by Angel Oracle

[OregonLAA]

Santiago has had several very nice games and some awesome bullpen appearances. He's had duds too but he deserves some credit

[Angel Oracle]

Morin is in a bit of a tailspin over the past month.

Pre-June 28 = 1.37 ERA and 0.95 WHIP

June 28 and forward = 5.50 ERA and 1.60 WHIP

And right on cue, his best outing in a month with 3 Ks and retiring all 5 batters faced

[AngelsFanSince86]

Jepsen has been great and so has Smith, but a good starter is always more valuable than a good reliever.  If we had Street all season and there was an option for him I would have picked him, but Weaver has been the only other truly reliable starter this season.  He has a 3.36 ERA, 1.12 WHIP, and a .227 BAA.  Despite his ever decreasing velocity the guy has continued to find a way to be effective.  Our bullpen has been amazing, but they would be worn out by the end of the season if it weren't for Richards and Weaver averaging 6.5 innings a game (If you take out the game where Weaver exited in the 2nd inning because of back pain they have the same amount of IP in the same number of starts).  Shoemaker has been surprisingly good, but has averaged below 6 IP per game and Skaggs has averaged about 6, but has a 4.49 ERA so hasn't exactly been that effective overall.  Santiago has been pretty terrible for the most part.  And Wilson was being Wilson before he was injured.  If not for Weaver being that second rock in the rotation then we might be looking at a much different picture right now.  And I know wins aren't the greatest stat, but if you know how to analyze it then it can still be useful.  Weaver has had the second lowest run support of any pitcher with 4.5 RS/GS (Santiago has 4 RS/GS).  Yet he still has won 11 games.  He tends to give up more runs in games that are high scoring and keep it low when the game is low scoring.  He almost always keeps it close.  

[OregonLAA]

Santiago has not been terrible. Also Shoe and Skaggs have a quicker hook than the others so their innings per game isn't necessarily their fault. I think Scioscia is trying to keep their innings down