Colon actually marks for an exclamation point.

[Blarg]

The Angels are 4th in the AL for team ERA

 

The bullpen has a 64% save rate which ranks them 10th, well below league average.

They are 11th in holds

Again 10th in high leverage situations (should be referred to as choking)

They have the 3rd most blown saves.

They lead the entire American League in allowing inherited runners to score - 42%

 

I just don't see how we are needing to focus on picking up another starter. 

[Lou]

And you never answered my question about who's the better bargain out there then Colon right now.  And shut up about English or Spanish while I might get your answer in English.

1. I did answer your question.

2. I have no idea what that last sentence is supposed to mean

[Lou]

The Angels are 4th in the AL for team ERA

 

The bullpen has a 64% save rate which ranks them 10th, well below league average.

They are 11th in holds

Again 10th in high leverage situations (should be referred to as choking)

They have the 3rd most blown saves.

They lead the entire American League in allowing inherited runners to score - 42%

 

I just don't see how we are needing to focus on picking up another starter.

That's easy.

We're not.

[Lou]

i think it may be time to chase chase

[ukyah]

could someone please tell me the history of halothunder. i think i may have a good idea already.

[Lou]

I would but I have to be somewhere on Tuesday

[HaloRed16]

Protect the rotation with 2 rookies out there now. 

 

SP may not be bigger then RP now, I'll give anyone that, but it is down the line over Skaggs and Shoemaker. Skaggs is on a season IP pitch limit, and if Shoemake endures, he's on that watch as well.  Are they not rookies?  So, if the Halos don't protect the rotation but the bullpen about their moves, then how uneasy will it feel later and into the post season without Skaggs and possibly Shoemaker.     

Edited July 5, 2014 by HaloRed16

[Lou]

Protect the rotation with 2 rookies out there now. 

 

SP may not be bigger then RP now, I'll give anyone that, but it is down the line over Skaggs and Shoemaker. Skaggs is on a season IP pitch limit, and if Shoemake endures, he's on that watch as well.  Are they not rookies?  So, if the Halos don't protect the rotation but the bullpen about their moves, then how uneasy will it feel later and into the post season without Skaggs and possibly Shoemaker.     

 

what are their season IP pitch limits?

[Blarg]

Shoemaker shouldn't have any innings limits, he has pitched over 170 innings three years in a row in the minors.

[HaloRed16]

Meanwhile, Oakland is 1-up on us now.  Beane's moved to significantly protect that A's rotation by getting Samardjia and Hammel because what has been their strong area was starting to look shaky: Chavez (that he's pitched bullpen before only) and Kazmir (over a possible recurring injury that could bench him for awhile).

 

If Di Poto answers back with reinforcing the bullpen without the starting pitching, is that the answer? 

 

I don't think so. 

Edited July 5, 2014 by HaloRed16

[ELEVEN]

Sliver tonged devil!

[HaloRed16]

Lou: The Brewers and Nats set Gallardo's (2009) and Strausberg's (2011) at 180 IP, allowing them to go over it upon the final start.  Skaggs will probably be there, too, if he continues to pitch fairly deep into the games with each outing.  Shoemaker came on later but if he performs the same way, there's that watch for him, too.

 

Di Poto's moved on Thacker to replace Burnett.  It looks like their stashing Santiago away as starting rotation backup reinforcement now, but that's a risk with passing up for the better reinforcement on the market now. 

 

Thus, for Colon or someone else, Santiago might actually chip as part of a trade.      

[tennischmp]

I still don't see what a colon has to do with any of this

[Lou]

Gallardo and Strausburg have nothing to do with Skaggs and Shoemaker.

 

You said our pitchers were on a pitch count.  Where did you get this information and how many

IP will they be allowed to pitch this season?

[Lou]

Who are you talking to?

[jshep]

Shoemaker topped out at 184 IP last season. He should be fine to handle a regular workload down the stretch.

 

And while Skaggs's workloads have been lighter between the DL stint where he missed 3 turns in the rotation and the fact that the team is going with a 6 man rotation for the next turn or two through likely even reduces that concern.

 

At this point I'm not seeing the dire need to start trading prospects for Colon.

Edited July 5, 2014 by jshep

[Blarg]

Lou: The Brewers and Nats set Gallardo's (2009) and Strausberg's (2011) at 180 IP, allowing them to go over it upon the final start. 

 

Strasberg only pitched 15 innings in 2011, he went down for the rest of the season with Tommy John surgery. He only pitched 159 innings in 2012, they shut him down the first week into September to protect his surgically repaired arm.

[Season Over]

The title of this thread makes my head hurt.

[m0nkey]

Strasberg only pitched 15 innings in 2011, he went down for the rest of the season with Tommy John surgery. He only pitched 159 innings in 2012, they shut him down the first week into September to protect his surgically repaired arm.

Strasburg got hurt in 2010. The (24 not 15) 2011 innings came at the end of the year Edited July 5, 2014 by m0nkey

[Lou]

The title of this thread makes my head hurt.

 

i would edit it but i really have no idea what to do with it

[HaloRed16]

Eric:

How do transcend 170 IP from the minors to the majors?  Maybe that's where his limit will be then, if he keeps it up!

 

The bottom line is they're rookies and likely on limits.   

[Lou]

So what you are saying is that they really aren't on a pitch count and you just made it up, right?

[HaloRed16]

Your heads hurt the moment the thunder rolls in.  If I say "agree" or "disagree" without giving a reason, your heads hurt. 

[Blarg]

Eric:

How do transcend 170 IP from the minors to the majors?  Maybe that's where his limit will be then, if he keeps it up!

 

The bottom line is they're rookies and likely on limits.   

 

Shoemaker pitched over 180 innings last season and is 27 years old. There will be no pitch limits put on him.

[HaloRed16]

What's your point, Lou?  There's no truth therefore no reason?  So where does that put you?