Hobby Lobby

[TobiasFunke]

Those Christians you speak of are a small minority.  It's like saying the Communist party represents the left.  Hence, it is still dishonest. 

It might be a small minority, but a valid complaint nonetheless

[Thomas]

Oh am I?

 

I too have Christian friends that refuse to use birth control because they feel they would be altering God's plan. And they would be quick to call out Hobby Lobby for allowing that to be in their medical plan. So don't tell me that I'm wrong for throwing that out there because a lot of believers would back me up Hobby Lobby's hypocrisy.

 

 

So your point is that there are Christians that disagree with each other on how to be Christian? Next you'll be saying that there are Angels fans who disagree about how to run the team.

[mtangelsfan]

It might be a small minority, but a valid complaint nonetheless

 

It is actually completely invalid because the reasoning for the objection has nothing to do with a lack of faith or trying to stop God's plan.  The objection comes from the fact that the forms they are against end a human life. 

[Tank]

Also worth pointing that the boys in my avatar are both pill babies so um yeah.

 

change "michael phelps" to "thomas crow".

 

 

[Thomas]

change "michael phelps" to "thomas crow".

 

 

 

To be accurate I'm pretty sure it has more to do with my wife's sheer will to produce eggs.

[TobiasFunke]

The objection comes from the fact that the forms they are against end a human life. 

 

Per Christian beliefs yes?

[mtangelsfan]

Per Christian beliefs yes?

 

Can be but it is also a scientific fact that they end a human life.  As fan said earlier in this thread it isn't just Christians who see it that way.  Also, it is a wide spread Christian belief, not the 1% you are referring to.

[TobiasFunke]

Edit: It doesn't even matter to me anymore. I'm over it.

Edited July 1, 2014 by TobiasFunke

[mtangelsfan]

Fine!!!!!!

 

 

[Adam]

[Vegas Halo Fan]

It's just a joke that employers are even involved in healthcare in the first place.

 

I completely agree. This is a system we have been saddled with since around World War II. Every industrialized country in the world has a national health care system except the US.The ACA was watered down to get it through Congress and it doesn't represent a true national plan in the same sense as those in Canada, Australia and the UK.

 

Tying health care to employment creates a lot of problems. It requires employers to select, manage and buy health care programs for their workers. It also allows them to manipulate the system and get out of providing health care benefits by limiting the hours of their workers. Two part time workers don't get benefits while one full-time worker, working the same number of hours as two part-timers, does.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

"Satanists Use Hobby Lobby Decision to Play Devil's Advocate"

http://news.yahoo.com/satanists-hobby-lobby-decision-play-devils-advocate-212212419.html

[Mudville]

I can just see the protest signs.

 

SATANIST FOR IGNORANCE

 

Hell No, We Don't Want to Know!

 

Abortion Means Opt Out!

[Taylor]

The Obama administration hates women!

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/22/birth-control-accommodation_n_5699352.html

[floplag]

oh joy, another exception to obamacare... thing has more holes than swiss cheese at this point

[halobob]

Well, there it is!

 

But to be serious, many people who are against abortion are not coming from a religious perspective. To them it's a simple matter of science. The embryo, even at the initial stage, is human and not a fish or some other species.

 

Not trying to start an argument here, just saying that one doesn't necessarily have to be religious to object to abortion.

I would like to see a count of how many people object to abortion who are not religious.

[nate]

I object to abortion.

But hey I am practically an evangelical

[halobob]

I object to abortion.

But hey I am practically an evangelical

Really?  Why?

[nate]

Forgetting religion I am just morally opposed to it.

 

That said, I do not really like heavy legislation around it.

 

I certainly don't think abortion should be a means of birth control.  That is abhorrent.

[halobob]

Forgetting religion I am just morally opposed to it.

 

That said, I do not really like heavy legislation around it.

 

I certainly don't think abortion should be a means of birth control.  That is abhorrent.

Ok, I was wrong in my assumption then.

[Schildog]

Forgetting religion I am just morally opposed to it.

 

That said, I do not really like heavy legislation around it.

 

I certainly don't think abortion should be a means of birth control.  That is abhorrent.

 

abortions for some. miniature american flags for others.

[Blarg]

Lapel pins.

[Taylor]

I would like to see a count of how many people object to abortion who are not religious.

 

According to a Gallup poll, 19% of non-religious people are pro-life.

 

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/03/11/yes-there-are-pro-life-atheists-out-there-heres-why-im-one-of-them/

[Spirit]

That's 1 in 5 to you and me. 

[nate]

so the next four atheists to post in thread aren't pro life.