Rate Of U.S. Gun Violence Has Fallen Since 1993, Study Says

[NrM]

And the majority of homicides have been from blacks(gang violence? illegally owned guns?)

 

 

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/05/07/181998015/rate-of-u-s-gun-violence-has-fallen-since-1993-study-says

 

"In 2004 (the most recent year of data available), among state prison inmates who possessed a gun at the time of the offense, fewer than two percent bought their firearm at a flea market or gun show," according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. "About 10 percent of state prison inmates said they purchased it from a retail store or pawnshop, 37 percent obtained it from family or friends, and another 40 percent obtained it from an illegal source."

Edited June 29, 2014 by Poozy

[Taylor]

Why do we care that the majority of homicides are by African Americans? 

[Tank]

so they don't have any more recent info on this than from ten years ago?

[HaloMagic]

I don't have much of a horse in this race so I don't really care to read the article so I'm not sure of all the info is ten years old but if it is wouldn't that coincide pretty nicely with the ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines?

[NrM]

Probably shouldn't have quoted that portion of the article.

 

If you guys read the short article, you'd see that the data is as recent as 2011

 

"Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49 percent lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation's population grew," according to the Pew study. "The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75 percent lower in 2011 than in 1993."

Edited June 30, 2014 by Poozy

[Skram]

I don't have much of a horse in this race so I don't really care to read the article so I'm not sure of all the info is ten years old but if it is wouldn't that coincide pretty nicely with the ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines?

This is what the government funded report done by the University of Pennsylvania concluded:

 

In sum, AWs and LCMs were used in up to a quarter of gun crimes prior to the 

1994 AW-LCM ban. By most estimates, AWs were used in less than 6% of gun crimes 

even before the ban. Some may have perceived their use to be more widespread, 

however, due to the use of AWs in particularly rare and highly publicized crimes such as 

mass shootings (and, to a lesser extent, murders of police), survey reports suggesting high 

levels of AW ownership among some groups of offenders, and evidence that some AWs 

are more attractive to criminal than lawful gun buyers. 

 

In contrast, guns equipped with LCMs – of which AWs are a subset – are used in 

roughly 14% to 26% of gun crimes. Accordingly, the LCM ban has greater potential for 

affecting gun crime. However, it is not clear how often the ability to fire more than 10 

shots without reloading (the current magazine capacity limit) affects the outcomes of gun 

attacks (see Chapter 9). All of this suggests that the ban’s impact on gun violence is 

likely to be small. 

 

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/204431.pdf

[Schildog]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect

[Don]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect

I was waiting for someone to bring that up.

[Caralho]

I tend to think it's the removal of lead from many common products combined with the aging of the US population. 

[Schildog]

I was waiting for someone to bring that up.

I aim to please with the facts.

[Tank]

I'll bet the people of Chicago are happy to hear the good news in this report.

[Jay]

I'll bet the people of Chicago are happy to hear the good news in this report.

 

http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/shootings

[HaloMagic]

http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/shootings

There are a lot of 14-17 year-olds on that list. Sometimes humans really disgust you. Seeing that list makes this one of those times for me.

[Tank]

http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/shootings

 

oh.

my.

 

where's jesse on this?

[Jim]

Doesn't Chicago have some of the most stringent gun laws in the country?

[Tank]

Doesn't Chicago have some of the most stringent gun laws in the country?

 

yeah, i think they do.

 

the problem here seems to be with gang members mostly, and i imagine most if not all of those guns are owned illegally.

 

i would love to see gun rights groups give suggestions about how to curb this huge, huge problem. those tasked with making or enforcing gun laws aren't addressing this part of the problem, so maybe some fresh eyes on the issue can help.

[arch stanton]

Come on, Tank. the problem isn't gun violence. It's violence. Guns just happen to be the most convenient means to an end. Get people to quit seeing others as threats and from hating each other and the gun deaths will drop.

[Jason]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect

This is most likely true. Wipe them out before they get the chance. I also hear recidivism rates are low among inmates that have been executed.

Edited July 11, 2014 by Angels N Skins

[Tank]

Come on, Tank. the problem isn't gun violence. It's violence. Guns just happen to be the most convenient means to an end. Get people to quit seeing others as threats and from hating each other and the gun deaths will drop.

 

name any period in history that was free of violence. take as much time as you like.

 

while i absolutely agree with you that violence is a huge problem, guns make it that much easier for people to do something violent, and the sheer number of guns out there is frightening. why not do something positive to remove part of the problem by going after the guns that being held illegally? i'd think that gun rights activists would want to do something to protect their rights to lawfully own guns by trying to rid the country of the illegally owned ones. after all, every time new legislation comes up, all we hear is "this will only punish the legal gun owners, and not the criminals." so let's go after the criminals.

[arch stanton]

I have no problem going after illegal guns but that never seems to be on the agenda.

[Tank]

I have no problem going after illegal guns but that never seems to be on the agenda.

 

i think it should be a much higher priority than it's been in the past. MUCH higher.

[Jay]

i think it should be a much higher priority than it's been in the past. MUCH higher.

 

Seems like we always want to pass new laws rather than enforcing the ones we already have.

[Lhalo]

Quit crowding jail space with people selling weed and lock up illegal weapons violators.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

so they don't have any more recent info on this than from ten years ago?

 

This is fairly typical of any studies regarding the criminal justice system. There is no uniform system of reporting across law enforcement agencies, and it takes an incredible amount of time to review, interpret and tabulate the information and draw any conclusions from it. Probably no two agencies record information the same way.

[LBHalos17]

This is the problem with "gun laws".  They only penalize law-abiding citizens.

 

The root of the problem is gangs.