How about Shoemaker as the closer ?

[joeywings]

When Skaggy comes back?

[disarcina]

I don't know about Shoemaker as the closer -- and I didn't see tonight's game but Shoemaker's line looked terrible -- after a few very good starts.

 

but this Grilli deal may allow Shoemaker to go to the pen in a  set up/ pre set up role.

 

I'd send Kohn back out.

[jshep]

Shoemaker was awful tonight, but I can't see a reason to move him to the pen.

 

He's shown himself to be a pretty capable starter thusfar, and as long as that's the case he's a lot more valuable in that role than pitching out of the pen.

[Taylor]

Even I think Shoemaker has been pitching way over his head, but give the dude a break. Even the best pitchers in baseball have outings like this.

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

I believe he's been pitching over his head, but like stated above, give him a break. This was one bad performance. Give him a few more starts to see how he rebounds. He has been nails for us.

[Jim]

I say we talk to San Diego regarding bullpen help, and leave Shoemaker right where he is. Tonight was good for the youngster, as It's all a part of his learning curve. Hopefully he learns and moves forward.   

Edited June 28, 2014 by Jim

[laagamer]

I don't like it. 

 

We should have Smith at closer and Morin at setup IMO.

[mancini79]

This thread was meant to be sarcastic....... right??!?!

[joeywings]

This thread was meant to be sarcastic....... right??!?!

No.

When  his forkball is working, he can get you a lot of groundouts.

[Lou]

With our overabundance of SP I could see why this would be suggested

[Carlos]

I say let's give the Bearded One a couple bad starts before we re-think his future. Remember Richards Oakland start? If we go back to the gameday thread it had been determined the dominance was over.

Chill.

I'd say remember Richards in 2012-13. Minors, starter, bullpen, spot starter. Always had good stuff, just couldn't seem to put it together. Similar case with Shoey, he needs more starts and he's been serviceable in the back end of the rotation.

[Stradling]

This thread is the equivalent of having a thread called, "How bout Conger at Clean up?" after his 0-4 with a K and a DP the other day.

[Jason]

Except yesterday, Shoemaker as been getting the job done. I see the OP's point about his role after Skaggs comes back. I don't think he's a closer but he may be a good long relief pen option and can always spot start if necessary. It really has nothing to do with yesterday's outing. Everybody is allowed a bad outing.

[Glen]

Interesting stat was shown on yesterday's game.  I don't remember the exact numbers but there was a huge difference in the BAA for Shoemaker between the first and second times through the lineup, as in at least a .120 difference.  I'd expect that most pitchers have some level of difference, but it seemed significant.  

 

Based on that one piece of info alone, he may indeed have a future in the pen.  

[Stradling]

I do put a premium on relief pitchers that get lots of ground balls.

[Homebrewer]

With a good splitter as an out pitch, he may fit as a late inning reliever.

Santiago has more pen experience, but his start today might be the deciding factor in who stays in the rotation.

[Michael Pellicciotti]

I don't know about Shoemaker as the closer -- and I didn't see tonight's game but Shoemaker's line looked terrible -- after a few very good starts.

 

but this Grilli deal may allow Shoemaker to go to the pen in a  set up/ pre set up role.

 

I'd send Kohn back out.

Dude, Grilli is not a SP....your in two threads discussing how he can help the rotation.

[nate]

How about Shoe stays in the starting rotation.

[moccasin]

How about Conger catches Shoemaker all the time?

 

w/Conger 31IP, 2.93 ERA, 7.75K/BB, .641OPS against

w/Iannetta 23IP, 6.56 ERA, 2.75K/BB, .930OPS against

[YouthofToday]

Wow, this thread has delivered. Folks using CERA as an argument and others implying we have a lot of SP depth.