Padres getting calls on Street, Benoit

[Torridd]

I'd keep Cron. I think Green, Cowgill, Kohn, and pretty much anyone from AAA (not Bedrock, Alvarez) can go away. As long as it's not Green and Lindsay in the same deal.

[Scott34]

If that's what it takes to improve the bullpen, I'd do it. We still have Morin and Alvarez. 

 

Street, Smith and Morin would be an incredible trio to close shit out. Jepsen, Santiago, Frieri and in the future Alvarez give us a solid BP. 

 

I agree with the last sentence there, but in 2016 and maybe 2015, Bedrosian would be the improvement over Street.

[Chuck]

I don't see the disaster. Street is already what you hope Bedrosian becomes.

 

Exactly. 

 

We held on to the following prospects where all-star caliber players would have been obtained in the past...

 

Mathis, Wood, Saunders, Aybar, Kendrick, Santana, McPherson and Kotchman (ultimately we finally let him go before his stock sunk to 0 and got Teixeira). 

 

Would I like to hold onto Bedrock? Absolutely, but he shouldn't be a deal breaker, untouchable. Street is a proven closer and having a fantastic year, and HE'S CHEAP! 

[Scott34]

I don't see the disaster. Street is already what you hope Bedrosian becomes.

 

You have Bedrosian for 6+ years, Street 1 1/2.

 

That's the disaster.  

[arch stanton]

You have Bedrosian for 6+ years, Street 1 1/2.

 

That's the disaster.  

To me it's more of a disaster worrying about that when there's a ring dangling in front of your nose. To waste this season for want of a closer would be a disaster.

[Scott34]

To me it's more of a disaster worrying about that when there's a ring dangling in front of your nose. To waste this season for want of a closer would be a disaster.

 

We are living the effects of the "win now" disease.  2007, 2008, 2009 had that attitude... and when we didn't get the ring we were left with a barren organization.

[arch stanton]

We are living the effects of the "win now" disease.  2007, 2008, 2009 had that attitude... and when we didn't get the ring we were left with a barren organization.

One for one doesn't leave you barren and 2009 was totally worth going after even if they didn't win it.

[Hollyw00d]

2010 was far more damaging than 2009, but he's right.

[DB24]

Bedrosian for Street is fine with me.

[Second Base]

The Padres are after hitters at the trade deadline.  If the Angels want Benoit, Street or both, it's going to cost a bounty of offensive players and that's simply something they don't have.

 

There's a match with either Lindsey or Yarbrough, because Headley's going to hit FA and Gyorko will move back to 3B so they'll need a 2B.  But given their abundance and the market, you'll see the Padres asking for a much higher price.  For either one of those relievers it's going to cost the Angels the likes of Cowart, Cron, Green, Yarbrough, Lindsey or Calhoun.  You can pretty much forget about the Angels parting ways with Cron, Green and Calhoun.  

 

That leaves Yarbrough, Lindsey and Cowart.  They'll only deal one second baseman, and that's likely going to be Yarbrough.  

 

So this is the deal, Yarbrough + Cowart for Street or Benoit.  However, almost any organization can match that and swoop in and offer more than the Angels.  They'll likely be forced to add a pitcher with upside.  I think you're looking at adding either Bedrosian, Elliot Morris, Nate Smith or Kyle McGowin.  Just for the sake of argument, let's say it's Elliot Morris. 

 

So Alex Yarbrough, Kaleb Cowart and Elliot Morris for Street.  

 

Is that a bounty we're all comfortable paying?  Because I'm sure as heck not. 

Edited June 25, 2014 by ScottyA_MWAH

[Sherlock31]

Depend on the asking price, if it only cost us Cam B and Yarbrough then I say do it. 

 

As long as it's not like the Haren deal (3 SP for 1), I am ok with.

Edited June 25, 2014 by Sherlock31

[nate]

I would not trade Bedrosian for Street, but I could see why others would. I would give up Sappington and Yarborough for him. I would like to expand the trade to include Headley.

 

Trades like this are what destroyed the Angels farm system.

 

I hope they don't make any trades.  Angels need to stop mortgaging the future.  No way they win the division, Oakland is too good so then you are just trying to win a one game playoff?  Forget about it.

[Lou]

No trading position players, or young pitchers for these dudes. We've already been down that road. If the asking price is too high, just move on.

That leaves DHs and old pitchers.

Good luck with that

[Scott34]

That leaves DHs and old pitchers.

Good luck with that

 

That's the point.

[arch stanton]

Playing for the future is what the A's have been doing since 1989. If you want to wait a quarter century because a one game playoff scares you that's your prerogative. I see this season as wide open and for the taking.

[nate]

Playing for the future is what the A's have been doing since 1989. If you want to wait a quarter century because a one game playoff scares you that's your prerogative. I see this season as wide open and for the taking.

 

And trading everything for a chance is what the Angels have done for the last six years.  You see where that got them.

[Dreams]

The Pads want hitting not pitching.  I doubt they ask for Bedrock.  Cron, Green, our top hitting prospects are what they want.

[Lou]

Trades like this are what destroyed the Angels farm system.

 

I hope they don't make any trades.  Angels need to stop mortgaging the future.  No way they win the division, Oakland is too good so then you are just trying to win a one game playoff?  Forget about it.

Yeah, they're a whopping 4 games up on us with only 87 games left.

They're a juggernaut

[nate]

The Angels most successful years came from Stoneman not trading away all of the farm for rentals or old vets.

[Dreams]

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/order/false

[DB24]

I would pass on anything involving Cron.

[arch stanton]

And trading everything for a chance is what the Angels have done for the last six years.  You see where that got them.

Trading everything is a slight exaggeration considering we only mentioned Bedrosian for Street. Beane was allowed to punt the entire last half of the last decade and all it's gotten them is 4 games up in June. What are we afraid of? 

[nate]

Trading everything is a slight exaggeration considering we only mentioned Bedrosian for Street. Beane was allowed to punt the entire last half of the last decade and all it's gotten them is 4 games up in June. What are we afraid of? 

 

So you are trading a young cost controlled reliever that could be with the team for at least six years for a guy that has 1.5 years on his contract?  Bedrosian has barely had a shot and people want to trade him cause he struggled coming up.

[arch stanton]

So you are trading a young cost controlled reliever that could be with the team for at least six years for a guy that has 1.5 years on his contract?  Bedrosian has barely had a shot and people want to trade him cause he struggled coming up.

No I want to trade him because he won't help this year. Judging by what they've done so far this season it seems to me that they see Alvarez as the closer in waiting. Street gets it done right now for not a lot of money and not a long commitment.

[nate]

Just adding Street doesn't make the Angels favorites.

 

They need two back end relievers and a top SP.  They can't fill all those gaps so why waste the future for still a good but not deep team?  Makes no sense.