Looking back on the Haren Trade

[TroutField]

Isn't it kind of regrettable? Sure, he pitched very well for us while he was here but we missed the playoffs both years he was here, and having Tyler Skaggs and Patrick Corbin right now would be a major plus.

[Mark68]

Yeah, I guess since we finished in third place with him, we could have finished in third place without him.

[AZMike]

Isn't it kind of regrettable? Sure, he pitched very well for us while he was here but we missed the playoffs both years he was here, and having Tyler Skaggs and Patrick Corbin right now would be a major plus.

Dipoto screwed up on that one big time.

 

No Haren meant they got eliminated from the first round of the playoffs in 2011 instead of going to the world series.

 

Both the DBacks and Angels would've been better off had that trade never happened.

[WallyWorld]

Dipoto was with AZ when that trade went down, right? 

[Second Base]

Dipoto is the one that pulled the trigger on that trade for the D-Backs.  Arizona is better off now too.  I remember the media blasted him and fans thought he was terrible for passing on the Yankees package that included Jesus Montero and Dellin Betnaces and instead took the Angels package of Saunders, Corbin and Skaggs. 

 

Dipoto won big time.  Saunders stabilized the rotation, gave Arizona 2+ good years of a #4 starter for relatively cheap.  Corbin climbed the ladder quickly and will be a #4/5 starter for Arizona for the next 6 years at a cheap price.  Tyler Skaggs turned into a Top 20 MLB prospect and will give them 6+ years of a solid #2-4 starter. 

 

Reagins wasn't dumb to make the trade though.  It needed to be done.  Haren was an ace only making 12 million a year.  He was what Kazmir was supposed to be.      

[Mark68]

Dipoto was with AZ when that trade went down, right? 

He was acting GM for the DBacks at the time of the trade.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

At the time the deal was made, it appeared to make a lot of sense from the Angels standpoint. In retrospect, not so much.

[Brent Maguire]

It was a good trade at the time. We really needed another ace and he pitched very well in 2011 and 2012. 

[Unclearnie]

Anybody know offhand how many of Haren's leads were lost by the bullpen last year?  If substantial, maybe we should have kept him.  Maybe he could have been an ace last year too.

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

Anybody know offhand how many of Haren's leads were lost by the bullpen last year?  If substantial, maybe we should have kept him.  Maybe he could have been an ace last year too.

I don't know, but he was far from an "ace" last year (4.33 ERA, 1.29 WHIP, .275 BAA).  

[disarcina]

thought it was a good deal for us at the time and even now after he's gone.

 

Haren pitched well for us -- and I also think we parted company with him at probably the right time.

 

wish him well, he pitched fairly well for us -- nothing spectacular.

[Taylor]

The only ones who dislike(d) the trade are Saunders fanboys. I never understood why anyone saw him as anything more than mediocre.

[Docwaukee]

drafting trout was a bad idea because we didn't make the playoffs last year. 

[AZMike]

The only ones who dislike(d) the trade are Saunders fanboys. I never understood why anyone saw him as anything more than mediocre.

Better to sign Saunders and not give up the third best hitter on the team than to trade for a Saunders equivalent

[Blarg]

Isn't it kind of regrettable? Sure, he pitched very well for us while he was here but we missed the playoffs both years he was here, and having Tyler Skaggs and Patrick Corbin right now would be a major plus.

Two and a half years later and now you think it is regrettable? How did you feel about the trade in 2010 when he pitched in 14 games with a 2.87 ERA or in 2011 going 16-10 with a 3.17 ERA?

 

That was not regrettable and that is what the Angels traded for, not future prospects that have taken three years later to emerge. You have to play for the season you are in, if you can make the playoffs making a big trade you do it because chances at future playoffs are never guaranteed by having a couple hot 20 year olds in your minors.

[Corona]

At the time it was a good trade for both parties.