Honest question about scouting reports

[mp170.6]

How long do the Angels study or discuss scouting reports before games?  Five minutes?  Not at all sometimes? 

 

This is nothing new of course.  Angels' hitters have been unprepared at the plate for many years. 

 

[tomsred]

It's probably like high school, once you are in the classroom you stay there for one hour.  Some people sleep, some day dream, and some think about doing it with the teacher.  Other than that I have no insight.

[jshep]

It's probably like high school, once you are in the classroom you stay there for one hour.  Some people sleep, some day dream, and some think about doing it with the teacher.  Other than that I have no insight.

 

Thanks for that mental image!

[Guest]

Thanks for that mental image!

 

[mp170.6]

Well done, tomsred.

[Jeff Fletcher]

They've been doing it a lot more this year than before. 2 or 3 meetings before each series. Then a hitters meeting every day.

[tomsred]

Do they burden Howie?

Howie hits the same each game.  Take a fastball in, ball 1.  Swing and miss at a slider low and off the plate, strike 1.  Swing and foul off a fastball in, strike two.  Swing at a slider outside and off the plate rolling it over on the ground into a double play. 

[AngelArcher]

Howie hits the same each game.  Take a fastball in, ball 1.  Swing and miss at a slider low and off the plate, strike 1.  Swing and foul off a fastball in, strike two.  Swing at a slider outside and off the plate rolling it over on the ground into a double play. 

 

I saw Howie take a low and outside slider today and flipped it out to right field for a single instead of trying to pull it which usually results in a grounder to short or a strikeout. My jaw literally dropped.

[tomsred]

I saw Howie take a low and outside slider today and flipped it out to right field for a single instead of trying to pull it which usually results in a grounder to short or a strikeout. My jaw literally dropped.

 

I missed that one.  I was too busy throwing up watching gloating A's fans.

[mp170.6]

They've been doing it a lot more this year than before. 2 or 3 meetings before each series. Then a hitters meeting every day.

 

What happens in these meetings and how long do they run? 

[Lou]

3rd in runs scored and 4th in OPS in the AL.

not too shabby

[Jeff Fletcher]

What happens in these meetings and how long do they run?

They go over the tendencies of all the opposing pitchers/hitters.

The pre-series meetings are probably 20-25 minutes apiece. The daily hitters meetings are maybe 10-15.

[mp170.6]

3rd in runs scored and 4th in OPS in the AL.

not too shabby

 

That's more or less what I was getting at.  How can you score so many runs and have good OPS, but let Oakland's pitchers totally destroy you? 

 

I'm not discounting the fact Oakland has good players, but the Angels face them 18 or 19 times every year, and SHOULD BE familiar with them.  The talent is definitely there, but I don't think they come to the plate prepared.

[mp170.6]

They go over the tendencies of all the opposing pitchers/hitters.

The pre-series meetings are probably 20-25 minutes apiece. The daily hitters meetings are maybe 10-15.

 

That's all?  10-15 minutes?

 

How can they cover the opposing starter and three or four likely relievers in that short of time?

[Tyler]

What else do you need to know about a pitcher besides what pitches he throws, how often he throws each one, and which count he likes to throw it in?

Swing at strikes and sit on balls.

[Lou]

Swing at strikes and sit on balls.

Let it go, gentlemen.

[Tyler]

Lol

[nate]

In this series it seemed like it was the pitchers that were unprepared... or just unable to execute.

 

Pretty pathetic showing by the pitching in Oakland.  Especially Weaver, Smith, Richards and Josh never heard of him Grube.  Hope that guy doesn't get another chance with the Angels.

Edited June 2, 2014 by nate

[Glen]

That's all? 10-15 minutes?

How can they cover the opposing starter and three or four likely relievers in that short of time?

How long should it take? I think that's plenty of time, unless you just love meetings.

[nate]

They go over the tendencies of all the opposing pitchers/hitters.

The pre-series meetings are probably 20-25 minutes apiece. The daily hitters meetings are maybe 10-15.

 

How does this compare to other teams that you have covered?

[Troll Daddy]

You guys are reaching for straws here

Funny stuff

[Blarg]

3rd in runs scored and 4th in OPS in the AL.

not too shabby

Obviously they need to improve. Can't have third best anything, we must have the best of the best of the best.

[mp170.6]

How long should it take? I think that's plenty of time, unless you just love meetings.

 

I don't know.  They went 8-11 against Oakland last year and are 1-5 this year.  Until that trend improves, 10-15 minute meetings may not be enough. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

That's all? 10-15 minutes?

How can they cover the opposing starter and three or four likely relievers in that short of time?

They do the relievers at the start of the series. Don't have to do them again every day. The daily meetings are just for the starter that night.

[Jeff Fletcher]

How does this compare to other teams that you have covered?

I have never covered a team that spent this much time on scouting meetings.