The Ridiculously Early Mike Trout Race to the MVP thread

[Hollyw00d]

2.5 fWAR through 27 games, on pace for roughly 13 WAR. Ya, 13.

discuss

[stevestevens]

He strikes out too much. Way way way too much. Pkus he K's a lot. Then there is also the fact that he doesn't steal anymore and we haven't even begun to discuss the high strike out rate.

[ItzTacosYerrp]

He also tends to get three strikes on himself alot

And he never steals

[seenoevil]

He strikes out too much. Way way way too much. Pkus he K's a lot. Then there is also the fact that he doesn't steal anymore and we haven't even begun to discuss the high strike out rate.

yet he's batting over 320

[tdawg87]

Trout could be the first player ever to K 200 times and still finish with a .320 avg.

[CaliAngel]

The not stealing thing is what confuses me the most.

[19HALO71]

Adjustments while at bat are way overrated.

[stevestevens]

yet he's batting over 320

 

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[Thomas]

Plus he is a dick when he orders from Subway. Seriously, using a cell phone is too much to ask? Property damage is no laughing matter!

[seenoevil]

Trout could be the first player ever to K 200 times and still finish with a .320 avg.

wrong, trout worse k per yr was 139. Never doubt trout. Won't happen even if you want it too

[Hollyw00d]

He really needs to get better at not getting three strikes on him, pitchers really flourish in those counts

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

He needs to stop looking at the 3rd strike before I can even take him seriously for MVP.

 

And plus, he needs to hit 40+ HRs and 140+ RBIs because nobody cares about WAR

[fan_since79]

Taking a look at Baseball Reference leaders, he's in the top ten in no less than 25 categories. I left out the strikeouts (he's 4th in that). He's leading in several of the important offensive stats.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL/2014-batting-leaders.shtml

Edited May 1, 2014 by fan_since79

[Guest]

He strikes out too much. Way way way too much. Pkus he K's a lot. Then there is also the fact that he doesn't steal anymore and we haven't even begun to discuss the high strike out rate.

 

Trout doesn't even bother to swing the bat anymore. Walk, walk, strikeout looking, intentional walk, strikeout looking. Those 0-1 and 0-2 games aren't good. 

Edited May 1, 2014 by ScottLux

[rageous]

Your math is way off.

He's currently on pace for 15 WAR in a 162 game season.

[fan_since79]

His OPS is a cool 1.000 right now.

[NrM]

Plus he sucks in high leverage situations!

 

seriously though that stat has got to be the dumbest ****ing stat in the world. Dumber than Wins and RBIs.

 

 

A few games ago Trout's dad was being interviewed and he even mentioned that he needs to cut down on the K's and work on his throwing arm.

There's no way he wont cut down on his K's imo. I think he'll definitely make the adjustments.

Edited May 1, 2014 by Poozy

[Diaz15]

Has anyone mentioned his strikeouts? 

 

... or that he doesn't steal anymore

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

For real though, some dude on MLB Network just said that Yadier Molina was the best position player in baseball right now. Another say Troy Tulowitzki, and 2 picked Mike Trout.

 

Yadier Molina !?!?!

[NrM]

For real though, some dude on MLB Network just said that Yadier Molina was the best position player in baseball right now. Another say Troy Tulowitzki, and 2 picked Mike Trout.

 

Yadier Molina !?!?!

 

I could see the argument for Yadier molina because he does a lot of things that can't be judged by stats, but Troy Tulowitzki?

His career OPS+ is only 123. Mike trout has a career 167 OPS+.

 

The park factor is pretty significant.

Edited May 1, 2014 by Poozy

[Blarg]

Plus he sucks in high leverage situations!

 

seriously though that stat has got to be the dumbest ****ing stat in the world. Dumber than Wins and RBIs.

 

 

A few games ago Trout's dad was being interviewed and he even mentioned that he needs to cut down on the K's and work on his throwing arm.

There's no way he wont cut down on his K's imo. I think he'll definitely make the adjustments.

 

The Angels avoided a lot of wins last season so they must have been playing pretty smart baseball.

[markb]

Tulo's offensive contribution from a position where you rarely get much from, combined with the fact that he's also a good defender?   I can see the argument for him being second most valuable behind Trout.  His problem has always been staying on the field, though.

[Blarg]

For real though, some dude on MLB Network just said that Yadier Molina was the best position player in baseball right now. Another say Troy Tulowitzki, and 2 picked Mike Trout.

 

Yadier Molina !?!?!

 

Do you ever see Trout frame a catch in the outfield? Horrible, it is amazing he ever gets an out call.

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

I could see the argument for Yadier molina because he does a lot of things that can't be judged by stats, but Troy Tulowitzki?

His career OPS+ is only 123. Mike trout has a career 167 OPS+.

 

The park factor is pretty significant.

 

Yah two of the analysts stated that the park factor plays a big factor against him along with injuries.

[Hollyw00d]

In all seriousness, there's a real possibility Michael trout could be twice as productive as the second best player in the league this season. think about that for a minute