Max Scherzer talks with Tigers tabled

[gotbeer]

Max Scherzer talks with Tigers tabled

 

Will this be another Boras airball?  Or will Boras conquer the qualifying offer?

[Angel Oracle]

Hey Bo-arse, did you NOT learn from the Weaver signing? Some players are happy with a certain salary. It isn't ALL about you, Mr. Greed!

Contrary to what you may believe, Mr. Gecko was NOT right!

Edited March 24, 2014 by Angel Oracle

[YouthofToday]

Boras represents clients and is an upstanding agent in MLB. The hatred towards him should be directed at players, not the agent.

Boras is a positive influence in the game.

[Blarg]

Thank you for that, Jon Heyman.

Edited March 24, 2014 by Eric Notti

[ukyah]

Max Scherzer talks with Tigers tabled

 

Will this be another Boras airball?  Or will Boras conquer the qualifying offer?

 

 

qualifying offer? are you serious?

[ukyah]

is it cool if we sign an outstanding pitcher? i'd like him. way more than greinke, for sure.

[YouthofToday]

Scherzer is probably looking for $200-$250 million. He will get it with another pasta gm season.

[gotbeer]

qualifying offer? are you serious?

 

If you look at Scherzer's numbers.  2013 was an epic year for him.

 

But the previous 4 full seasons.  He never had an ERA under 3.50.  He never had a WHIP under 1.25.  

 

If the Tigers offered a Felix/Kershaw type deal, then Boras is stupid for passing it up.

 

If Boras was the one that said we want this type of deal, and the Tigers refused, then that's on Boras.  And if Scherzer reverts back to his career norms, or takes a step back.  It could be shades of Santana/Jimenez again.

[JAHV76]

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/22/report-scott-boras-insists-he-has-three-year-39m-offer-on-the-table-for-stephen-drew/

Stephen Drew may sign soon to a "mystery" team thanks to Boras.

[fan_since79]

With Pujols (8 more years) and Hamilton (4 more), and Trout soon to have a mega-contract, we don't have another $200 million to throw around.

[mancini79]

Tigers say they offered a contract that would have made Max one of the highest paid pitchers in the game. It looks like Boras countered with different terms and the Tigers declined. This shows that Max will test FA this off season. Gutsy move because if he gets injured or falls off a bit, he'll lose that initial offer.

[Brent Maguire]

Scherzer is a damn good pitcher but 2013 was probably a career year for him.

I'm surprised that offer wasn't accepted. He must really want to test free agency.

[ukyah]

i think he's grown into the pitcher he was drafted to be. he's a #1, imo.

[arch stanton]

Boras' MO has always been to ho to free agency. No surprise here. Then when he gets to free agency he'll ask for 7 years and a player opt out.

[mancini79]

Boras is making the Tigers bid against themselves. He will do whatever the player asks and will take the heat. It's Max that didn't take the offer, not Boras. But the Player/Agent dynamic makes it seems like the Agent is being the greedy one. This allows a player to save face among fans and say "I love the city and love the clubhouse. I hope we can come to terms", while fans bad mouth the agent. If Max really loves Detroit, he could have taken the initial deal and lived comfortably for the rest of his life.

[SoWhat]

i think he's grown into the pitcher he was drafted to be. he's a #1, imo.

I agree, he's a #1 in my book. He might've had a career year, but I think he'll put up similar number to it over the next few years.

[Brent Maguire]

I agree, he's a #1 in my book. He might've had a career year, but I think he'll put up similar number to it over the next few years.

I can see him producing near his 2013 levels. I think adding a decent curve ball and the development of his slider and change up led to the spike in production in 2013.

 

One thing I noticed looking at his numbers is he had a super low BABIP at .259, which is way below his career .302 mark. Most of it probably had to do with him just turning into a better pitcher. Some of it may have been luck. I guess we'll find out how much luck was involved next year. 

[SoWhat]

I can see him producing near his 2013 levels. I think adding a decent curve ball and the development of his slider and change up led to the spike in production in 2013.

 

One thing I noticed looking at his numbers is he had a super low BABIP at .259, which is way below his career .302 mark. Most of it probably had to do with him just turning into a better pitcher. Some of it may have been luck. I guess we'll find out how much luck was involved next year. 

 

Yeah, a big part of his success came from being able to get lefties out, thanks to the curveball he started using last season. Lefties hit .222 against him last year, A huge drop off from the .292 mark they had against him in 2012. 

[Blarg]

Weaver, Wilson, Richards and Santiago are all pitching better than Scherzer this Spring training.

[nando714]

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/22/report-scott-boras-insists-he-has-three-year-39m-offer-on-the-table-for-stephen-drew/

Stephen Drew may sign soon to a "mystery" team thanks to Boras.

Rangers with Profar going down

[sneaky_flute]

He hasn't really established himself as the kind of pitcher who can make those demands.

[sneaky_flute]

Rangers with Profar going down

I wouldn't mind Drew as a stopgap, but I highly doubt the Rangers are going to give him a 3-year contract.

[nate]

He will be a Dodger or a Yankee.

[Cdaniel]

I wouldn't mind Drew as a stopgap, but I highly doubt the Rangers are going to give him a 3-year contract.

He was quoted a saying he would sign for 1yr. Rangers already lost a draft pick with Choo so it makes sense.

[tdawg87]

Boras is making the Tigers bid against themselves. He will do whatever the player asks and will take the heat. It's Max that didn't take the offer, not Boras. But the Player/Agent dynamic makes it seems like the Agent is being the greedy one. This allows a player to save face among fans and say "I love the city and love the clubhouse. I hope we can come to terms", while fans bad mouth the agent. If Max really loves Detroit, he could have taken the initial deal and lived comfortably for the rest of his life.

 

Boras must have only greedy clients then because this happens with basically every one of them.