Uganda's Anti Gay Legislation

[Blarg]

The sponsor of the bill, MP David Bahati, insisted homosexuality was a "behaviour that can be learned and can be unlearned".

"Homosexuality is just bad behaviour, that should not be allowed in our society,"

 

They removed the death penalty from the law but first time offenders would receive 14 years in prison and a crime not to report gay people.

 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-26320102

 

 

 

[arch stanton]

Now the citizens can be relieved that they live in a more family friendly poverty stricken shithole.

[bakunin]

Racist. Dey only be like dat cuz da white man done colonized eem took all dey resources been there 40,000 years invented a stick....

[nate]

The sponsor of the bill, MP David Bahati, insisted homosexuality was a "behaviour that can be learned and can be unlearned".

"Homosexuality is just bad behaviour, that should not be allowed in our society,"

 

They removed the death penalty from the law but first time offenders would receive 14 years in prison and a crime not to report gay people.

 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-26320102

 

Arizona and Kansas are already drafting their own versions.

[mtangelsfan]

LOL, these laws would never had come up if a Christian wedding cake maker hadn't been sued for not wanting to make a wedding cake for a gay couple.

 

The laws are overreaching for sure, but I see why they have occured.

[Blarg]

I really can't think of a reason why they occur anymore except to instill more oppressive government fear.

[mtangelsfan]

I just pointed it out.  Should a Christian wedding cake maker be forced to make a cake for a gay wedding? 

[arch stanton]

Should the phrase wedding cake maker be prefaced with the "Christian" qualifier? There is ample stupidity on all sides. It's a never ending circle jerk of victimhood.

[tdawg87]

I just pointed it out.  Should a Christian wedding cake maker be forced to make a cake for a gay wedding? 

 

Getting sued =/= being "forced"

 

The cake maker had every right to deny a customer for their beliefs. But that same customer has every right to take action if they feel wronged.

[mtangelsfan]

Getting sued =/= being "forced"

 

The cake maker had every right to deny a customer for their beliefs. But that same customer has every right to take action if they feel wronged.

 

Getting sued is being forced.  Would not the threat of losing one's business make someone feel forced to do something?

[St1ck]

The cake maker should stop being such a dick, and just make the damn cake. 

[mtangelsfan]

Should the phrase wedding cake maker be prefaced with the "Christian" qualifier? There is ample stupidity on all sides. It's a never ending circle jerk of victimhood.

 

Only in the sense that the Constitution (Bill of Rights) provides freedom of religion. 

[mtangelsfan]

The cake maker should stop being such a dick, and just make the damn cake. 

 

hmmm, why should he/she have to?  Also, why would the gay couple want a wedding cake made by someone who doesn't even agree that they should be married?

[Adam]

Cake making seems like an industry that would be loaded with gays. 

[St1ck]

hmmm, why should he/she have to?  Also, why would the gay couple want a wedding cake made by someone who doesn't even agree that they should be married?

 

 

Didn't say it has to, I said he should. 

[tdawg87]

hmmm, why should he/she have to?  Also, why would the gay couple want a wedding cake made by someone who doesn't even agree that they should be married?

 

I asked before, but how would they even know that the cake maker wouldn't support them before they refused?

 

Also no one is forcing them to do anything. They refused service to a customer because of their beliefs and that customer is taking action. Every decision a business makes could end up costing them their business. By there not being any laws against this sort of decision that business owner has the right to make that decision without legal consequences. The consequences in this case are that the customer chose to file a lawsuit. They have that right just as much as the business owner has the right to deny them.

[St1ck]

Cake making seems like an industry that would be loaded with gays. 

 

 

Because they don't like pie? 

[tdawg87]

I don't know much about the case but if they are suing to get a cake made then I agree that they should find someone who will do it without having to file a lawsuit. However that seems kind of stupid that they would want that.

[nate]

So he was sued but did he lose the lawsuit?  People sue for all kinds of dumb shit that doesn't make it to law.

[mtangelsfan]

So he was sued but did he lose the lawsuit?  People sue for all kinds of dumb shit that doesn't make it to law.

 

I don't know what happened with the suit nate.  But he had to hire a lawyer.  Small business owners don't have tons of money usually to hire lawyers.  Whatever the outcome I'm sure it still sucked.

 

I do agree the law is a full blown overreaction and is really stupid.  I see both Republican Senators are urging Brewer to veto the Arizona bill. 

[Blarg]

Getting sued is being forced. Would not the threat of losing one's business make someone feel forced to do something?

Much better idea to throw the person ordering a cake into jail for 14 years.

[Blarg]

By the way, this thread is not about senile Senators from Arizona or homophobic cake makers. This is about Uganda and their gay population locking themselves in their homes fearing arrest.

[mtangelsfan]

By the way, this thread is not about senile Senators from Arizona or homophobic cake makers. This is about Uganda and their gay population locking themselves in their homes fearing arrest.

 

Wait, are you saying that a thread on aw took a turn into a different direction?  Wow, that never, ever happens.  Who would of thunk it?

[nate]

I don't know what happened with the suit nate.  But he had to hire a lawyer.  Small business owners don't have tons of money usually to hire lawyers.  Whatever the outcome I'm sure it still sucked.

 

I do agree the law is a full blown overreaction and is really stupid.  I see both Republican Senators are urging Brewer to veto the Arizona bill. 

 

Often when you have a frivolous lawsuit the judge orders the person to pay the defendants lawyer fees.  Sorry but because someone got sued is not a reason to create a law.  I thought you were for less government?

[Caralho]

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2014/01/sweet_cakes_by_melissa_investigation_wraps_up_as_state_finds_evidence_that_bakery_violated_civil_rights_for_refusing_to_make_same-sex_wedding_cake.html