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I'm 7 episodes in. The big scene in the first episode was almost a jump the shark moment, and here's why... (SPOILERS AHEAD)

 

 

 

 

 

 

--How did Frank know exactly how to throw her into the train where he'd be out of sight of security cameras and witnesses, and where the security cameras would make it look like she had simply tripped or fell?

--Why would Frank risk it? For all he knew, she had told her friends she was going to be meeting him exactly at the spot where she ended up getting trampled by a subway. Luckily for him, she hadn't told anybody... but he didn't know that.

--Not to mention it seemed like a split-second decision, so either Frank is omniscient or he's unrealistically lucky. There happened to be a subway passing by at exactly the right moment.

--This is all assuming that it's normal for a soon-to-be-Vice President to brutally murder someone in a public place. The Russo murder I was willing to accept because it was cold, planned out, and calculated, more in line with Frank's style of politics. This one made it seem like he was a serial killer who had done it several times before. Maybe he has.

--If Frank wanted to off Zoe, it would have made more logical sense to have Stamper do it. But that's just like my opinion, man.

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I'm 7 episodes in. The big scene in the first episode was almost a jump the shark moment, and here's why... (SPOILERS AHEAD)

 

 

 

 

 

 

--How did Frank know exactly how to throw her into the train where he'd be out of sight of security cameras and witnesses, and where the security cameras would make it look like she had simply tripped or fell?

--Why would Frank risk it? For all he knew, she had told her friends she was going to be meeting him exactly at the spot where she ended up getting trampled by a subway. Luckily for him, she hadn't told anybody... but he didn't know that.

--Not to mention it seemed like a split-second decision, so either Frank is omniscient or he's unrealistically lucky. There happened to be a subway passing by at exactly the right moment.

--This is all assuming that it's normal for a soon-to-be-Vice President to brutally murder someone in a public place. The Russo murder I was willing to accept because it was cold, planned out, and calculated, more in line with Frank's style of politics. This one made it seem like he was a serial killer who had done it several times before. Maybe he has.

--If Frank wanted to off Zoe, it would have made more logical sense to have Stamper do it. But that's just like my opinion, man.

 

 

I agree. It was extremely unrealistic and didn't make a whole lot of sense.

That's why it was such a shocker to everyone I guess.

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I'm 7 episodes in. The big scene in the first episode was almost a jump the shark moment, and here's why... (SPOILERS AHEAD)

 

 

 

 

 

 

--How did Frank know exactly how to throw her into the train where he'd be out of sight of security cameras and witnesses, and where the security cameras would make it look like she had simply tripped or fell?

--Why would Frank risk it? For all he knew, she had told her friends she was going to be meeting him exactly at the spot where she ended up getting trampled by a subway. Luckily for him, she hadn't told anybody... but he didn't know that.

--Not to mention it seemed like a split-second decision, so either Frank is omniscient or he's unrealistically lucky. There happened to be a subway passing by at exactly the right moment.

--This is all assuming that it's normal for a soon-to-be-Vice President to brutally murder someone in a public place. The Russo murder I was willing to accept because it was cold, planned out, and calculated, more in line with Frank's style of politics. This one made it seem like he was a serial killer who had done it several times before. Maybe he has.

--If Frank wanted to off Zoe, it would have made more logical sense to have Stamper do it. But that's just like my opinion, man.

 

1) You're assuming a lot here. He simply knows the layout of the meeting point, obviously stayed out of sight, and the timing could have made sense to the rendezvous. He could have easily had a weapon on him and did it the same way. It's a train station, trains are coming and going.

 

2) He risked it for everything he has and the fact Zoe was getting to close to the Russo murder. They had a mutually beneficial relationship, that's like saying why didn't either of them have recorders at their meetings. They clearly had trust and a defined on and off the record thing.

 

3) See #1. I've learned to just accept these things in movies/shows. He could have done it any other way, but the writers chose this to happen.

 

4) Indeed, maybe he has. I'm willing to bet there is a lot that politicians do that we don't know about (hell, the stuff we do find out seems just as outrageous) and this was just more direct.

 

5) If Stamper does it then there is still questions. I think it was actually set up from when he had her delete all his info for a direct trace as police go over the death scene.

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I still don't buy it. The location of where he was, the way Zoe fell into the track, and the timing of the train was all too perfect unless Frank was wearing Google glasses and had the security camera feed in front of his eyes.

 

I don't think it was meant to be realistic. But in a show that takes itself very seriously and wants to portray a strong sense of realism, it just took me out of the moment.

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*****Spoilers Ahead*****

 

 

 

 

 

 

What a great show. I watched the original UK House of Cards back in the early 90s, so I assumed the Zoe character was going to die. In the original version, Francis (same first name, different last name) pushes her off the roof and she yells "Daddy." They had a bit more of a Freudian relationship than the US version. The wife is also more evil in the UK version.

 

Anyway, I was pretty sad about what happened to Freddie, who seemed like Frank's only true friend, but even he casts him aside for political advancement. I don't really get why President Walker decided to take away the pardon offer to Raymond Tusk rather than just tell him to keep pleading the fifth and keep his options open.

 

I absolutely loved the twist where Rachel kills Stamper and he simply asks "What are you doing?" I don't think Doug had any intentions of killer her that night as he was in love with her and was trying to figure things out while keeping his job. Anyways, great show and I hope they have at least one more season.

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*****Spoilers Ahead*****

 

 

 

 

 

 

What a great show. I watched the original UK House of Cards back in the early 90s, so I assumed the Zoe character was going to die. In the original version, Francis (same first name, different last name) pushes her off the roof and she yells "Daddy." They had a bit more of a Freudian relationship than the US version. The wife is also more evil in the UK version.

 

Anyway, I was pretty sad about what happened to Freddie, who seemed like Frank's only true friend, but even he casts him aside for political advancement. I don't really get why President Walker decided to take away the pardon offer to Raymond Tusk rather than just tell him to keep pleading the fifth and keep his options open.

 

I absolutely loved the twist where Rachel kills Stamper and he simply asks "What are you doing?" I don't think Doug had any intentions of killer her that night as he was in love with her and was trying to figure things out while keeping his job. Anyways, great show and I hope they have at least one more season.

 

They've already been renewed for season 3

 

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Did she actually kill doug or just knock him out?

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They've already been renewed for season 3

 

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Did she actually kill doug or just knock him out?

 

Good call, last I had checked, they were still talking with Spacey and Wright, who both prefer films. Anyway, I suppose I am assuming Doug is dead since he was hit in the head with a rock multiple times and was lying in the same position overnight, but it is certainly possible that he is just knocked out (this is a television...errr internet show after all).

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Finished yesterday. I have to go back and watch it again as somuch happened towards the end.....they did a great job of everything from the first episode all coming back to the surface (except for Lucas) and it all tied together. I still don't know what the hacker dude had with Stamper (or why) and Frank. Same with why the President didnt go to bat for himself.

 

Great show, but at the end it becomes a little far fetched when you realize Frank went from Senator to President within two years.

 

As for the Frank/Claire/Meechum dealio, I thought it was more about a few episodes before when they are in bed talking about if they are having sex with anyone as they need the release and Frank says something along the lines of they are too powerful/in the spotlight and there is no one to trust. I could tell as soon as they showed Claire as she had that look and wanted to get Meechum to drink something was going down (not to mention I saw the Taylor spoiler above). Even knowing it seemed off the wall when it happened. I took it more as they could have a fling with someone trusted....probably even some tie in to the fact Meechum caught Frank watching porn.

 

Bummed about Freddy. He had some of the best lines of the season.

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