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| Just said on mason and ireland |
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| Also said jays are looking for a 5 player package with our 2 best young players(aybar wood/howie) plus 3 other players |
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| And with that, buh bye Halladay. Time to focus on re-signing Big John and Bay |
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| Richard517 - 12/10/2009 6:53 PM
Also said jays are looking for a 5 player package with our 2 best young players(aybar wood/howie) plus 3 other players
Uh, yeah. Good luck getting anything close to that. Ridiculous. They'll get stuck with him, trade him at the deadline, and get about 10% of the value they could have. |
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| I'd definitely trade Mason and Ireland for Halladay. I'd even through in Mathis. |
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| If thats TRUE....see ya. |
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| jsnpritchett - 12/10/2009 6:54 PM Richard517 - 12/10/2009 6:53 PM Also said jays are looking for a 5 player package with our 2 best young players(aybar wood/howie) plus 3 other players Uh, yeah. Good luck getting anything close to that. Ridiculous. They'll get stuck with him, trade him at the deadline, and get about 10% of the value they could have. Yup. Very stupid. Not even Johan Santana brought in a haul like that, and he was much, much younger at the time(going on 29 years old while Halladay is going on 33) and probably better than Halladay
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| Tin00can - 12/10/2009 6:55 PM
I'd definitely trade Mason and Ireland for Halladay. I'd even through in Mathis.
Yep...don't trust those two numb skulks to get anything right, particularly when it comes to baseball. Trade em. |
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| well that sucks. trade all 710 espn radio people except andrew siciliano and mychal thompson |
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| Let's just give the BJs the ownership of the franchise and start from there.
Ridiculous - don't they know the price is only going down for the Doc? |
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Just sign Lackey. |
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Location: Huntington Beach, CA | m0nkey - 12/10/2009 7:00 PM well that sucks. trade all 710 espn radio people except andrew siciliano and mychal thompson Why? They suck too.
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Location: AngelsWin.com: Where Angels Fans Are @ | None of the players the Twins got back for Johan Santana were impact type players or high end prospects. The key player "Carlos Gomez" was a bust for the Twins thus far.
If the Blue Jays turned down Aybar, Saunders and Bourjos, I would say we're done and move one. Sign Lackey and continue to shape the roster going forward with smaller deals. |
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| Chuck - 12/10/2009 7:01 PM None of the players the Twins got back for Johan Santana were impact type players or high end prospects. The key player "Carlos Gomez" was a bust for the Twins thus far. If the Blue Jays turned down Aybar, Saunders and Bourjos, I would say we're done and move one. Sign Lackey and continue to shape the roster going forward with smaller deals. Yeah I knew Carlos Gomez was the main piece, went back to check the rest and holy crap... Twins are left with absolutely nothing from that deal. Saunders/Aybar/Bourjos blows that Mets offer out of the water Jays are being ridiculous with their demands and it will only bite them in the end, similar to what Bowden did with Alphonso Soriano in Washington where he ended up not even trading him because he asked for too much. Jays are looking to be going that same route at this rate. I hope the Angels don't even bother with trying for Halladay from here on out, and by their track record they won't. They made a legit offer, Jays apparently want more. Time to move on.
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| sorry just got home to my pc...
mason and ireland opened with dodger talk blah blah....shifted attention towards the halos and roy halladay, and basically said the jays had turned down the offer and are hoping to get that same 5 player offer they had gotten last year at the deadline from boston or philly i believe it was. Mason and ireland were very shocked as was gammons(who is high on aybar). He also said something like there are people in the jays management are comfortable with letting halladay walk at the end of the year and letting the fans know they tried re-signing him but HE chose to leave and getting 2 picks in the process.
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Location: AngelsWin.com: Where Angels Fans Are @ | Richard517 - 12/10/2009 7:08 PM
sorry just got home to my pc...
mason and ireland opened with dodger talk blah blah....shifted attention towards the halos and roy halladay, and basically said the jays had turned down the offer and are hoping to get that same 5 player offer they had gotten last year at the deadline from boston or philly i believe it was. Mason and ireland were very shocked as was gammons(who is high on aybar). He also said something like there are people in the jays management are comfortable with letting halladay walk at the end of the year and letting the fans know they tried re-signing him but HE chose to leave and getting 2 picks in the process.
Ha. Two picks or two young solid major league ready players in Saunders and Aybar, plus Bourjos who could play CF for the Jays NOW and run circles around Vernon Wells. That package is much better than two 1st round gambles. |
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| snlu146 - 12/10/2009 7:01 PM m0nkey - 12/10/2009 7:00 PM well that sucks. trade all 710 espn radio people except andrew siciliano and mychal thompson Why? They suck too.
you may not like them but i love them
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| Richard517 - 12/10/2009 6:53 PM
Also said jays are looking for a 5 player package with our 2 best young players(aybar wood/howie) plus 3 other players
Cue Tom Hanks' laugh from "The Money Pit" |
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| lol, Toronto is the worst negotiating franchise I've ever seen. Remember the train wreck last July? Wow....really, wow. |
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Now, KISS MY FAT ASS TORONTO!!!!!  |
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Location: Henderson, NV | Richard517 - 12/10/2009 6:53 PM
Also said jays are looking for a 5 player package with our 2 best young players(aybar wood/howie) plus 3 other players
sounds reasonable, how bout we give them Weaver, Morales, Abyar, Napoli, Sciosca and the Rancho Cucamunga Quakes. Think that will be enough? |
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Location: OC | Other than on Mason and Ireland, has anyone actually seen/heard/read about this rumor? |
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Location: Mission Viejo | 10:00pm: Angels GM Tony Reagins didn't comment on the reported offer of Saunders, Aybar and Bourjos, but two sources shot the rumor down when Mike DiGiovanna of the LA Times asked them about it.
Reagins said the Blue Jays have targeted Saunders, Bourjos and Mike Napoli. It's even "possible" that the deal could be expanded to send more Blue Jays
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| so are they reworking it then? |
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Location: San Francisco | they shot it down and asked for gmjr to be included.
just suck it up and agree reagins. |
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| i dont know, wicked. i can see where reagins is coming from. gmjr has been the heart and soul of this team for the past three years, so i can see his reluctance |
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| If Toronto could not get that kind of deal last year, how do they expect to get it for only 1 year?? |
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| st1ckboy - 12/10/2009 8:08 PM
Reagins said the Blue Jays have targeted Saunders, Bourjos and Mike Napoli.
This is a misquote. In the original LA Times article Reagins doesn't "say" this. It's just a statement wedged in between two quotes by Reagins. Not sure what DiGiovanna was trying to do, but here's the uninterpreted quote from the article:
When asked about the rumor Thursday, Reagins chuckled.
"I have no reaction," he said. "There are a lot of rumors in this environment, a lot of things that get thrown around. It's up to someone else to decipher them, not me."
The Blue Jays have targeted Saunders, catcher Mike Napoli and Bourjos, among others. Reagins said it's "possible" a deal for Halladay could be expanded to include other Blue Jays coming to Anaheim.
"We've talked about a lot of things," Reagins said of his discussions with Toronto. "They have a lot of pieces that are attractive."
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Peter gammons: blue jays turn down offer
