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First time I was embarrassed to be an Angels fan.
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skills
Posted 2008-09-27 1:11 AM (#241221)
Subject: First time I was embarrassed to be an Angels fan.


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Booing Lackey was classless.

I want to chalk it up to novice fans that followed the lead of some a-holes wearing red who have no clue what Lackey means to the Halo org, but I am having a hard time doing it.
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Gambit92
Posted 2008-09-27 1:15 AM (#241224 - in reply to #241221)
Subject: Re: First time I was embarrassed to be an Angels fan.



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Sorry I didn't know what I was doing....I was already bombed by that point :sarcasm:
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AngelClipperFanInOz
Posted 2008-09-27 1:21 AM (#241228 - in reply to #241221)
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Shameful. Shameful. Shameful. The booing was what I would expect of assholes like Yankee or Red Sox fan, I never thought our fans would sink so low.
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ineedanap
Posted 2008-09-27 1:26 AM (#241230 - in reply to #241221)
Subject: RE: First time I was embarrassed to be an Angels fan.



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skills - 9/27/2008 1:11 AM

Booing Lackey was classless.

I want to chalk it up to novice fans that followed the lead of some a-holes wearing red who have no clue what Lackey means to the Halo org, but I am having a hard time doing it.


Me too. Kinda sad really.

For some reason, I was listening to Angel Talk in my car tonight and a caller actually brought up a really good point. He thought that because of the 3$ ticket promotion a lot of people who weren't Angels' fans or even baseball fans showed up to the game. It was these "fans" who know little about baseball or the Angels who were doing most of the booing.

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skills
Posted 2008-09-27 1:32 AM (#241231 - in reply to #241221)
Subject: Re: First time I was embarrassed to be an Angels fan.


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The booing was done by more than the $3 seat sections, though I'm sure that area was as bad as any.

I was in the MVP View area and asked a guy, "why the booing?" He looked away and then booed more after Lackey gave up a couple more hits. Others joined him. Sad.
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skills
Posted 2008-09-27 1:45 AM (#241235 - in reply to #241228)
Subject: Re: First time I was embarrassed to be an Angels fan.


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AngelClipperFanInOz - 9/27/2008 1:21 AM

Shameful. Shameful. Shameful. The booing was what I would expect of assholes like Yankee or Red Sox fan, I never thought our fans would sink so low.


Honestly, I give those fans more credit and don't believe they would boo their ace pitching hero off the mound after a great season. Right before the playoffs, nonetheless. Pavilion and upper deck Dodger fans, another story.

Edited by skills 2008-09-27 1:46 AM
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bloodbrother
Posted 2008-09-27 1:53 AM (#241236 - in reply to #241221)
Subject: Re: First time I was embarrassed to be an Angels fan.




People pay to go to the games. They can boo all they want. Personally I wouldn't do it, but I'm not upset at others who do.
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Brandon
Posted 2008-09-27 1:58 AM (#241239 - in reply to #241221)
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To be fair, it was a horrible performance. Watching the game it seemed more like the booing was for MS leaving him in so long.
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TooCool
Posted 2008-09-27 2:07 AM (#241240 - in reply to #241221)
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If I was at the game, I'd boo the Angels pathetic attempt to try and get back in the game.

The boos at Lackey were definitely unnecessary. I mean, we didn't even boo freaking Speier or Santana (last year). But I'm sure Lackey isn't going to take it to heart, he doesn't seem to be that kind of guy. :) We're in good hands.
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skills
Posted 2008-09-27 2:07 AM (#241241 - in reply to #241239)
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Brandon - 9/27/2008 1:58 AM
Watching the game it seemed more like the booing was for MS leaving him in so long.


I disagree. The booing was aimed at Lackey. Later on the booing started creeping towards Sosh for not pulling him.

How can lackey be pulled in the second inning when no one is warming up? The seven runs came in a hurry. Plus Lackey likely needs to get a minimum amount of work in before his next start.
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skills
Posted 2008-09-27 2:09 AM (#241242 - in reply to #241236)
Subject: Re: First time I was embarrassed to be an Angels fan.


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bloodbrother - 9/27/2008 1:53 AM

People pay to go to the games. They can boo all they want. Personally I wouldn't do it, but I'm not upset at others who do.


No one said they can't boo.
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xboom28x
Posted 2008-09-27 2:14 AM (#241243 - in reply to #241221)
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This is what happens when the expectations of your team rise so high with above average play over the last 6 years. The fans expect a competitive game and a win. If the Angels are getting blown out, they will voice their displeasure.

Remember this, they aren't booing Lackey as a person, but rather Lackey's performance.
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bloodbrother
Posted 2008-09-27 2:28 AM (#241244 - in reply to #241240)
Subject: Re: First time I was embarrassed to be an Angels fan.




TooCool - 9/27/2008 2:07 AM If I was at the game, I'd boo the Angels pathetic attempt to try and get back in the game. The boos at Lackey were definitely unnecessary. I mean, we didn't even boo freaking Speier or Santana (last year). But I'm sure Lackey isn't going to take it to heart, he doesn't seem to be that kind of guy. :) We're in good hands.

 

I'm pretty damn positive that Ervin got booed last year. Matthews was being booed this season. It happens.

 

 

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skills
Posted 2008-09-27 2:32 AM (#241245 - in reply to #241243)
Subject: Re: First time I was embarrassed to be an Angels fan.


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xboom28x - 9/27/2008 2:14 AM

This is what happens when the expectations of your team rise so high with above average play over the last 6 years. The fans expect a competitive game and a win. If the Angels are getting blown out, they will voice their displeasure.


Why no boos when the Yanks blew us out? Or the A's, or the Rangers in the home opener?

xboom28x - 9/27/2008 2:14 AM
Remember this, they aren't booing Lackey as a person, but rather Lackey's performance.


?
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skills
Posted 2008-09-27 2:33 AM (#241246 - in reply to #241244)
Subject: Re: First time I was embarrassed to be an Angels fan.


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bloodbrother - 9/27/2008 2:28 AM

TooCool - 9/27/2008 2:07 AM If I was at the game, I'd boo the Angels pathetic attempt to try and get back in the game. The boos at Lackey were definitely unnecessary. I mean, we didn't even boo freaking Speier or Santana (last year). But I'm sure Lackey isn't going to take it to heart, he doesn't seem to be that kind of guy. :) We're in good hands.

 

I'm pretty damn positive that Ervin got booed last year. Matthews was being booed this season. It happens.

 

 



After continuous poor performances. Not one bad game.
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ineedanap
Posted 2008-09-27 4:33 AM (#241261 - in reply to #241246)
Subject: Re: First time I was embarrassed to be an Angels fan.



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skills - 9/27/2008 2:33 AM

bloodbrother - 9/27/2008 2:28 AM

TooCool - 9/27/2008 2:07 AM If I was at the game, I'd boo the Angels pathetic attempt to try and get back in the game. The boos at Lackey were definitely unnecessary. I mean, we didn't even boo freaking Speier or Santana (last year). But I'm sure Lackey isn't going to take it to heart, he doesn't seem to be that kind of guy. :) We're in good hands.

 

I'm pretty damn positive that Ervin got booed last year. Matthews was being booed this season. It happens.

 

 



After continuous poor performances. Not one bad game.


I was going to say the same thing.

Anyway, I think I would have less of a problem with it, if fans didn't need to see "Make Some Noise" on the jumbo-tron to actually cheer for their team. At BoSox, Yankees, and other teams' games fans stand up and cheer at key points in the game. Whereas during key moments at Angels' Stadium the fans are talking on cell phones and doing the wave. I mean, if you are going to make an effort to boo one of your best players for one bad outing, at least get behind your team the rest of the time.
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VictoriousGhost
Posted 2008-09-27 9:05 AM (#241313 - in reply to #241221)
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If there is such a thing as karma, then Angel fans at the stadium last night sure whipped up a big batch.
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edhoo
Posted 2008-09-27 9:31 AM (#241339 - in reply to #241221)
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He deserved to be boo'd

This is the majors, not little league.
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VictoriousGhost
Posted 2008-09-27 9:36 AM (#241341 - in reply to #241339)
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edhoo - 9/27/2008 9:31 AM

He deserved to be boo'd

This is the majors, not little league.



That's a load, ed. I'm not saying Angel fans should have been cheering....but the booing and name-calling directed at a franchise player who came up through the system was way over the top. Why would a player want to stay here if Angel fans turn into Phillies fans? They can get paid more elsewhere and get treated better. Wonder what Teixeira was thinking....
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Posted 2008-09-27 9:42 AM (#241344 - in reply to #241341)
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VictoriousGhost - 9/27/2008 9:36 AM
edhoo - 9/27/2008 9:31 AM He deserved to be boo'd This is the majors, not little league.
That's a load, ed. I'm not saying Angel fans should have been cheering....but the booing and name-calling directed at a franchise player who came up through the system was way over the top. Why would a player want to stay here if Angel fans turn into Phillies fans? They can get paid more elsewhere and get treated better. Wonder what Teixeira was thinking....

Great point..Our Ace pitcher, who will be starting the first game of the playoffs, had a horrible night...you know, the pitcher who freaking won game 7 of the WS in '02....DOES NOT DESERVED TO BE BOO'D PERIOD.  Some guy in my section stood up and yelled "F you Lackey"....I said it right back at him...nobody boo'd the offense who couldn't score a run....bandwagon fans

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Posted 2008-09-27 9:51 AM (#241354 - in reply to #241221)
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skills - 9/27/2008 1:11 AM

Booing Lackey was classless.

I want to chalk it up to novice fans that followed the lead of some a-holes wearing red who have no clue what Lackey means to the Halo org, but I am having a hard time doing it.


As much as I vent, booing him was classless. There's a time to boo, and a time to just allow someone who's meant a lot to the franchise to quietly walk to the dugout.
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Posted 2008-09-27 9:54 AM (#241356 - in reply to #241241)
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skills - 9/27/2008 2:07 AM

Brandon - 9/27/2008 1:58 AM
Watching the game it seemed more like the booing was for MS leaving him in so long.


I disagree. The booing was aimed at Lackey. Later on the booing started creeping towards Sosh for not pulling him.

How can lackey be pulled in the second inning when no one is warming up? The seven runs came in a hurry. Plus Lackey likely needs to get a minimum amount of work in before his next start.


Well said. I hated to see it happening, but chalked it up as a ST type game, just getting the work in.
Just hope he isn't hiding an injury, and that he was just concerned with getting his pitches in to stay in rhythm for Wednesday.
He did even say in the OCR article that he was a bit unsure of when he would be pulled for precautionary purposes when the game started, and that might have mentally affected his pitching.
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Posted 2008-09-27 9:58 AM (#241360 - in reply to #241344)
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"if the shoe fits ... then wear it" I don't condone booing our own player's and get irritated when fans do. Lackey needs to take this as a 'wake up call' because Beckett is going into the playoffs on a roll.

Shake it off Big John ... and let's kick some Red Sox butt!
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Posted 2008-09-27 10:13 AM (#241376 - in reply to #241228)
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AngelClipperFanInOz - 9/27/2008 1:21 AM

Shameful. Shameful. Shameful. The booing was what I would expect of assholes like Yankee or Red Sox fan, I never thought our fans would sink so low.



'02 '04' 05' 07 &'08 Angel Fans= West Coast Red Sux, Yankee fan, but not as loud. lol
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disarcina
Posted 2008-09-27 10:35 AM (#241379 - in reply to #241221)
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Booing Lackey even after a 12-1 debacle was and is unacceptable and below the standard of being a Halos fan.
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disarcina
Posted 2008-09-27 10:39 AM (#241380 - in reply to #241221)
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the only time I've agreed with dissing one of our own players was when Scott Schoenweis dissed the Halo fans and fans in general in that last game before the players strike a few years back.

Schoenweis's comments were unacceptable and I thought he should be reminded of that every time he came into a game.

fortunately he was shipped out in a trade to the White Sox shortly after that.

he can now be seen as part of the Mets bullpen currently blowing their post season chances in the last week of the season for the second season in a row.

and that's GREAT, in addition to Schoenweis being on the team, the Mets front office deserve this for the way they treated Willie Randolph.
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Posted 2008-09-27 11:23 AM (#241411 - in reply to #241221)
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Completely senseless and all those aholes who did it deserve to get smacked over the head with a lead pipe.
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Posted 2008-09-27 11:30 AM (#241419 - in reply to #241221)
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Haha, awesome that this rolled over from yesterday. Who cares, I am more worried he blew in his final tune up start. I am just glad to see some pasion in the stadium instead of the Disney family setting. I have already stated my position on a weak crowd we have.
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Posted 2008-09-27 11:33 AM (#241421 - in reply to #241419)
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Brandon - 9/27/2008 11:30 AM Haha, awesome that this rolled over from yesterday. Who cares, I am more worried he blew in his final tune up start. I am just glad to see some pasion in the stadium instead of the Disney family setting. I have already stated my position on a weak crowd we have.

 

Exactly, what are we a whole bunch of soccer moms?

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Posted 2008-09-27 11:35 AM (#241423 - in reply to #241419)
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Brandon - 9/27/2008 11:30 AM

Haha, awesome that this rolled over from yesterday. Who cares, I am more worried he blew in his final tune up start. I am just glad to see some pasion in the stadium instead of the Disney family setting. I have already stated my position on a weak crowd we have.



Passion is a good thing....but it wasn't the booing that was so bothersome. It was the personal nature of the booing and the things being shouted out at Lackey and Scioscia. It probably didn't bother Lackey and he'd probably say "I deserved it". But I do think it was something that sticks in the back of some players' minds....especially the younger guys. Last night had very little to do with "passion". It seemed to have more to do with beer and foul-mouthed punks. I can go to Dodger Stadium if I want that.
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Posted 2008-09-27 11:37 AM (#241424 - in reply to #241423)
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You don't boo a man like Lackey, when he's done what he's done in an Angels uniform.

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Brandon
Posted 2008-09-27 11:44 AM (#241429 - in reply to #241221)
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Vic, I have to disagree....even our fans don't get that blitzed by the 2nd inning.

If I want to complain I am going to complain about that damn chick that was screaming next to the mic at every Angel batter.

I wouldn't boo him, but I am not going to go nuts in a messageboard about it. It was a rough go and our bull pen got some work......next.
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Posted 2008-09-27 11:48 AM (#241431 - in reply to #241221)
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I don't think anyone here is going nuts, but I will (and did) express my extreme displeasure with the bandwaggoners are yelling FU AT Lackey...a-holes
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Brandon
Posted 2008-09-27 12:01 PM (#241437 - in reply to #241221)
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BM, let's get nuts at Throwbacks.....next Saturday?
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Posted 2008-09-27 12:03 PM (#241439 - in reply to #241221)
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